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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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12/23/08 12:39 AM
12/23/08 12:39 AM
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So Cal
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It is painted. Did they come both ways on these cars? I will get a picture and post it tomorrow!
68 A-bodies are painted.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: RestoRick]
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12/29/08 06:17 PM
12/29/08 06:17 PM
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David Walden
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I've found the different color on the underlying paint in a trunk several times before.
Here is an example of the contrasting colors we found in the trunk area. It is a blue metallic hue. Would anyone have accepted this type of "quality" when they picked up the car from the dealership? Nice paint job! 
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: ECS]
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12/29/08 06:23 PM
12/29/08 06:23 PM
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David Walden
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: ECS]
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12/29/08 11:22 PM
12/29/08 11:22 PM
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Dave, I'm not a restoration guy, but I appreciate the patience, time, and work that go into them. I was fortunate enough to see the Challenger come out of the trailer (wearing the tire boots) and be driven onto the lift at the Nats. The car was so perfect that my brother, my dad-in-law, and myself all just stood there in awe. The amount of work poured into every detail of that car had to have been phenomenal. I can't even imagine what it would take to achieve that level of technical restoration. My hat is off to you, best of luck on the A-body...looking forward to seeing it. 
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: 300by500]
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12/30/08 02:24 AM
12/30/08 02:24 AM
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I was fortunate enough to see the Challenger come out of the trailer (wearing the tire boots) and be driven onto the lift at the Nats.....my brother, my dad-in-law, and myself....
Hi Brion! Thanks for the post. I hope I had the pleasure of talking to you guys sometime during the day when it was being judged. Tonight was the first time since the Nationals that I went into the garage to mess with the car and get things ready for a photo shoot. (It had to come off the lift.) It brought back some neat memories looking at all the different items that went into completing the project.
This Valiant is going in the air tomorrow to have the underside completely photographed and documented. Since we got the car home in mid October, I can’t begin to tell you how much additional information that we have accumulated with respect to how the factory built these cars. While we were accurate with the procedures we used on the Challenger, to actually document an unmolested original car is priceless. Taking it apart is as exciting as opening up Christmas presents as a kid in the 70‘s. I am going to go out on a limb here by saying that this Valiant project will make the Challenger one look amateurish when completed. They say that a car can only be original once. I promise that when this car rolls out in 2010, we will have folks questioning that particular concept. This one will be indistinguishable from a 1970 brand new, Hamtramck Plymouth vehicle.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: autoxcuda]
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12/30/08 01:35 PM
12/30/08 01:35 PM
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Georgetown Ontario Canada
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Dave You're certainly setting the standards very high for yourself and your team this time around.  In an earlier picture you showed the trunk weather-strip with a considerable amount of glue squeeze out. In your opinion would it meet your "goal" leaving areas like this untouched? Would the glue not dis-colour and dry out over the past 38 years? To achieve a "brand new" 1970 look, should this glue squeeze out be replaced with new fresher looking glue? In today's standards of OE judging when someone restores a car and copies squeeze out and other messy attributes of their original car, at least the glue looks new and matches the entire feel of the project. To get your latest project away from the "cleaned up survivor" status and into the "brand new car" status, areas like this glue squeeze out will have to be address in my opinion, but.... I think you would be crazy to try and remove the weather-strip and try to re-glue it..... This question can be asked about many areas of the car. What are your thoughts on this particular area of your project???? Alan
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: anlauto]
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12/30/08 02:08 PM
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Depending on you thoughts of how this car is going to be done....you would have to replace the trunk seal. With the trunk being closed for forty years there will be signs of collapsing and wear so it will not look new. Chrysler used yellow weatherstrip adhesive back then so that would be a no-brainer to duplicate. Just my  Hi Dave, I posted this while you were posting your reply...please don't read it the wrong way. With that being said what are you going to do with the weatherstrip??
Last edited by Troy; 12/30/08 02:13 PM.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: ECS]
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12/31/08 12:08 PM
12/31/08 12:08 PM
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St. Louis, MO
DodgeMaterial
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Dave - perhaps the black paint "blew off" of those trunk hinges!  Tom Barcroft MADE me do it! Dave S.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: DodgeMaterial]
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12/31/08 06:58 PM
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Tom Barcroft
Thanks for the updates Dave! A few guys have asked who Tom Barcroft is and his association with this project. He is a retired Chrysler executive who will be involved with the restoration of this vehicle. Not only does he work on these cars, he is also a photographer and will be the main guy documenting each and every part of the vehicle. (Above are a couple of his photos.) We will be publishing a book on the restoration steps regarding an OE type vehicle and Tom will be responsible for the photographs throughout the book. I am grateful to have his assistance and involvement with this project!
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I'm still trying to figure out how that area was not painted and how that pattern was left......after saying that I think I just figured it out. 
There were no "G Forces" due to lack of traction (hince my lack of expression.) I was able to get some excitement on the skid pad - where it manaaged .4 g's in lateral acceleration tests! Those 38 year old Goodyears (6.95x14 Polyester Cord) tires really do the trick for keeping you sedate - except in emergency manuvers... you should have seen my face after top speed trials - she can do 90! Dave
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