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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: anlauto]
#137405
12/18/08 06:49 PM
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Dave,I'm a little confused.The inspection sticker number in your picture is the same number as the reproduction Connecticut sticker on the above web site.Please explain. 
Wow...What are the chances of that? Maybe they all had the same number? We don't have those in Ontario, so I wouldn't have a clue.
Go to the sticker site...EVERY (CT, FL, PA, OH,.....) sticker has the 307429 number on it or a slight variation  I guess that's how you can spot a reproduction from that source 
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: A12]
#137406
12/18/08 07:14 PM
12/18/08 07:14 PM
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Blair County,PA
62maxwgn
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Dave,I'm a little confused.The inspection sticker number in your picture is the same number as the reproduction Connecticut sticker on the above web site.Please explain.
Wow...What are the chances of that? Maybe they all had the same number? We don't have those in Ontario, so I wouldn't have a clue.
Go to the sticker site...EVERY (CT, FL, PA, OH,.....) sticker has the 307429 number on it or a slight variation I guess that's how you can spot a reproduction from that source
Not mine! 
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: 62maxwgn]
#137407
12/18/08 08:01 PM
12/18/08 08:01 PM
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Boston
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Dave,I'm a little confused.The inspection sticker number in your picture is the same number as the reproduction Connecticut sticker on the above web site.Please explain.
http://inspectionsticker.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=59
Thanks goodness for guys like you.
Can you imagine if that was displayed as "authentic" and someone came up with a reproduction sticker identical numbers and all.
You just saved somebody from a big embarrasment.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: 440800]
#137408
12/18/08 08:40 PM
12/18/08 08:40 PM
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David Walden
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Thanks goodness for guys like you.
Can you imagine if that was displayed as "authentic" and someone came up with a reproduction sticker identical numbers and all.
You just saved somebody from a big embarrasment.
We never would have brought this decal to be part of the OE judging at the Nationals. Other than (me) being wrong by thinking it originally came with the car, there was no importance or emphasis regarding it's merit whatsoever. I would imagine that this reproduction is like many others that would require various improvements in order to be representative of the original. I have yet to find another decal manufacturer who makes their products look exactly like the factory versions. I only say that because we have spent thousands of hours (literally) scanning and creating first generation reproductions from original formatted examples. It takes ten times the effort to do it exact, which is why most reproductions ARE easily detected from the real ones. I had never seen this particular decal so there was nothing to compare it to!
(By the way 62maxwgn.....the car was owned by the original owner, sold to a couple of different collectors and then purchased by me. Thanks again!)
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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#137409
12/18/08 09:38 PM
12/18/08 09:38 PM
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Kirkland, Washington
Pacnorthcuda
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Dave,I'm a little confused.The inspection sticker number in your picture is the same number as the reproduction Connecticut sticker on the above web site.Please explain.
http://inspectionsticker.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=59
Thanks goodness for guys like you.
Can you imagine if that was displayed as "authentic" and someone came up with a reproduction sticker identical numbers and all.
You just saved somebody from a big embarrasment.
and somebody that's 'in the business' no less! Invaluable catch--I agree!
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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12/18/08 10:11 PM
12/18/08 10:11 PM
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and somebody that's 'in the business' no less!
While I appreciate you assuming that ECS should know every decal in the automotive industry, we only reproduce the Chrysler, Ford and General Motors decals that were used by the manufacturers to build their vehicles. We have never delved into the "United States Windshield Inspection Label " market so we do not claim to be experts in that particular area. With the millions of decals relating to the automotive industry, a company can only cover so much ground. Thank you again however, for the assumed/expressed confidence in our market knowledge!
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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12/18/08 10:43 PM
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Wilmington,NC
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Dave,I'm a little confused.The inspection sticker number in your picture is the same number as the reproduction Connecticut sticker on the above web site.Please explain.
http://inspectionsticker.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=59
Thanks goodness for guys like you.
Can you imagine if that was displayed as "authentic" and someone came up with a reproduction sticker identical numbers and all.
You just saved somebody from a big embarrasment.
and somebody that's 'in the business' no less! Invaluable catch--I agree!
Could be
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: ECS]
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12/19/08 01:00 AM
12/19/08 01:00 AM
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Hey Dave Walden,
I have been enjoying the coverage of your challenger in Mopar Action Feb 09 issue. Thanks for sharing your projects and knowledge so freely with us on moparts. I'm not a resto nut but really enjoy the facts projects like this bring to light. It makes my hobby all that much more interesting.
On the topic of this black 4 door, I have noticed in your photos and also seeing other very low mileage survivors a relative amount of deterioration in different coatings/platings including nickel-cadmium, zinc(?)on small components, engine and body paint popping off of parts, bolt heads, fender tags etc. This in addition to bare metal areas that get surface rust. The undersides of the trunk for example.
Will your resto of these parts be done with methods that preserve the finishes better than factory but still look correct or will this car only look new as long as it originally did, given of course that it will obviously live a very protected, climate controlled life?
Keep up the good work!
Lindy
I’m listening.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: ECS]
#137416
12/19/08 10:49 AM
12/19/08 10:49 AM
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Kirkland, Washington
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It seems you guys have a little difficulty with the facts
The "facts" ..... This thread is a HOOT!!!
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: Big Bad Bee]
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12/19/08 11:26 AM
12/19/08 11:26 AM
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Will your resto of these parts be done with methods that preserve the finishes better than factory but still look correct or will this car only look new as long as it originally did, given of course that it will obviously live a very protected, climate controlled life?
Hello Lindy,
I can’t thank you enough for taking the time to express your sentiments regarding the work we do. I realize that these projects represent only a limited sector of the hobby but if anyone has benefited from the efforts, I feel the outcome has been a success.
This focus of this vehicle will be no different than the Challenger, other than no reproduction parts will be used in the process. This car will hopefully represent a vehicle that looks just like it rolled off the assembly line and straight into a Plymouth dealership. (The appearance of the parts should look the same as the day they left the factory.) We will not enhance any details or aspects of the components that are used in the car‘s restoration. After the OE judging, the car will get protective oil on all the bare metal parts to keep them from rusting over time. I have had many car guys come out to take pictures of the finished vehicles and it makes it a little easier to see the results when things remain in pristine condition. Again, thank you very much for taking the time to come here and offer your input on this subject. Have a Merry Christmas and a Safe/Happy New Year!!
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