Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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12/13/08 07:44 PM
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Hi Dave, Just thinking,does the screw get screwed into the firewall or does it screw into heater core? Bob
Mom & Dad let me buy a brand new 70 Challenger R/T 440 Six-Pack Super Trac Pack when I was 17
(Robert what is a 440 Six-Pack)
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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12/13/08 08:11 PM
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(We will also provide the foam sealing pad that goes behind the part.)
Here's a pic of mine, the gasket I mean. This isn't correct is it?
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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12/13/08 10:52 PM
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Most non A/C a-bodies 67 to at least 72.
Thanks Steve. It looks to be a reinforcement plate of some type. The firewall doesn’t appear to be any weaker in that area as compared to other Chrysler vehicles that I have researched. Does anyone know why the A Body cars used this plate but other cars did not?
B & E body use a "donut" type seal that sandwiches between the firewall and heater box. A-body boxes don't have a flat surface on the box for a donut seal to seal against. Why I don't know; perhaps the A-body box design was less costly to manufacture and made the "plate seal" design necessary.
Rick
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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12/14/08 01:15 AM
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B & E body use a "donut" type seal that sandwiches between the firewall and heater box. A-body boxes don't have a flat surface on the box for a donut seal to seal against.
Hi Rick. Hope you are doing well! The firewall is where the plate is making contact against the thin foam gasket. The plate is actually doing nothing to assist in the sealing capabilities of the hoses. The seal area is provided by the clamps forcing the hose against the flared area of the heater core (outlet) pipes. It appears that the firewall surface could have provided the same “backing surface” as the plate. I have not taken this area apart so maybe I am missing some hidden aspect.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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12/14/08 01:22 AM
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It's just a cover plate to keep fumes going through the fire wall. No reinforcing that I can remember.
Hi Steve. I saw your post after reading Ricks. I think that you both hit the nail on the head and it has to do with sealing fumes out of the passenger area. Rick was correct with the seals being on the back side of the other vehicles and the A Bodies inability to have those seals in the same location. Good work guys and thanks for the comments!!!!
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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12/17/08 06:12 PM
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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12/17/08 11:29 PM
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Now thats too cool! wonder if thats bleach in a can
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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12/17/08 11:33 PM
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These items came with the car and add a little nostalgia to the overall project. The license plate was the original one issued to the car in 1970 and the windshield inspection tag was never applied. The small liquid chain spray can was also a "period" correct detail item that was in the trunk. (Not factory items but still kind of interesting and unique!)
wanna sell the plates ? My Dart is a 71 and I can register it with those plates because they are year of manufacture.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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12/18/08 10:38 AM
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wanna sell the plates ? My Dart is a 71 and I can register it with those plates because they are year of manufacture.
The plate is actually dated for a 1970 registration. The “Dec 71” decal would indicate that the vehicle was current with the state up to that ending date. The car was built April of 1970 so this plate and the Dec 71 sticker would have been issued to show it was DOT certified until the end of the 71 calendar year. I believe that a new 1971 vehicle would have had a decal that referenced the year “72” for it’s first year of registration. You think the police would even notice if I slapped this plate back on the car and drove around the block a few times?
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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12/18/08 11:28 AM
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Dave,I have one question.How does a vehicle get inspected and the sticker not applied ? (if its done legally).
I have no idea why this sticker came with the paperwork and never found its way on the windshield. In Missouri, the facility that inspects the car puts the decal on the front glass. I have to admit that in years past, I knew the guys that did my inspection and they would “pass” the car and give you the decal and paperwork in an envelope. Again, I don’t know why this one made it through without being stuck in place. Another thing to notice is that the date on the license plate sticker is DEC 71. The car was made in April of 1970. I would have thought that there would be another decal stuck under that one for the remainder of the 1970 year. I think that the DOT agency probably issued the 71 decal and plate to eliminate the redundancy of registering the vehicle, two times in a 14 or 15 month period. I am not familiar with Connecticut’s laws for that particular time so all of this is purely speculation. Someone else might have some insight regarding their guidelines for licensing in those years.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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12/18/08 11:57 AM
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The car was made in April of 1970. I would have thought that there would be another decal stuck under that one for the remainder of the 1970 year. I think that the DOT agency probably issued the 71 decal and plate to eliminate the redundancy of registering the vehicle, two times in a 14 or 15 month period. I am not familiar with Connecticut’s laws for that particular time so all of this is purely speculation. Someone else might have some insight regarding their guidelines for licensing in those years.
Could the previous plates (from a trade in?) been transfered and when they expired new plates were issued? In most States the license plate is a registration not a vehicle safety inspection (to a point). We have E-Check counties now (not back then) that is required before you can register and get the license plate sticker but non E-Check county residents "just pays the money and gets the sticker" no one looks at or inspects their car No yearly or bi-yearly State safety inspection here in Oh! Maybe the same back then it CT????
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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12/18/08 02:59 PM
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Could the previous plates (from a trade in?) been transfered and when they expired new plates were issued?
Hi Mike! I don't have any specific information concerning these items that came with the car. Dave Stuart found these things in a folder that came with the vehicle. (Richard didn't mention them so we didn't know they were under the front seat.) We found them after we got the car back home. I wasn't aware of the small yellow windshield sticker until I took a picture of it just this past Monday! The original owner of this car was a woman named Anne who was 96 years old. She passed away a few years ago and that was the first time the vehicle had changed hands since she purchased it in 1970. I don't think there was another license plate (prior to this one) that was issued when the car was new.
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