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PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! #1373657 01/21/13 03:28 PM 01/21/13 03:28 PM
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC L Luke OP member
Luke OP member L Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC	considering running my boost feed back to the throttle body inside the car, twin turbos in the rear, roadrace early A, 65 Dart why turbos in the rear??, trying to achieve a neutral car, with at least 50% rear weight, this is not a drag car, since everything is so tight in an early, considering running the 3.5 inch supply boost line inside the car pros and cons, anyone else done this??? thanks Luke

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373658 01/21/13 03:37 PM 01/21/13 03:37 PM
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC L Luke OP member
Luke OP member L Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC	Trying to post a picture, hope this works Thanks Luke 7555940-image.jpg (166 downloads) Last edited by Luke; 01/21/13 03:38 PM.

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373659 01/21/13 03:38 PM 01/21/13 03:38 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,911 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,911 Bend,OR USA	Most of the drag cars with remote mounted huffers, not roots type huffers mounted on top of the intake manifolds, have intercooler in the passenger seat are with the boost pipes into and out of the intercoolers back to the engine mounted throttle bodies Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373660 01/21/13 03:40 PM 01/21/13 03:40 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Guys do it all the time when they have the inner cooler in the trunk area

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373661 01/21/13 03:44 PM 01/21/13 03:44 PM
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC L Luke OP member
Luke OP member L Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC	Here a couple more pictures Luke 7555960-image.jpg (142 downloads)

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373662 01/21/13 04:13 PM 01/21/13 04:13 PM
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC L Luke OP member
Luke OP member L Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC	here another Luke 7556004-photo.JPG (140 downloads)

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373663 01/21/13 04:32 PM 01/21/13 04:32 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,238 North Cackilacky S sdaurity pro stock
sdaurity pro stock S Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,238 North Cackilacky	I would be more worried about those cast frozen boost intercoolers lasting. That is an expensive engine to be running water through. Tubes are run in the cabin on virtually every turbo drag car on gasoline so no problems there. One day I will have something cool here.

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: sdaurity] #1373664 01/21/13 11:09 PM 01/21/13 11:09 PM
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC L Luke OP member
Luke OP member L Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC	Quote: I would be more worried about those cast frozen boost intercoolers lasting. That is an expensive engine to be running water through. Tubes are run in the cabin on virtually every turbo drag car on gasoline so no problems there. Not sure if I understand the comment?? Luke

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373665 01/22/13 02:06 PM 01/22/13 02:06 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ Duner top fuel
Duner top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ	I like it. I like it a lot!

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373666 01/22/13 02:33 PM 01/22/13 02:33 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: I would be more worried about those cast frozen boost intercoolers lasting. That is an expensive engine to be running water through. Tubes are run in the cabin on virtually every turbo drag car on gasoline so no problems there. Not sure if I understand the comment?? Luke I'm guessing he doesnt like water to air intercoolers and is thinking it might break a cooing tube and pump water into the engine.... I've seen lots of those type innercoolers run and no problems

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1373667 01/22/13 03:00 PM 01/22/13 03:00 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,238 North Cackilacky S sdaurity pro stock
sdaurity pro stock S Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,238 North Cackilacky	Those are 199$ intercoolers. First pop, backfire, or oops moment they will bust the core and pump all the water out of them through the engine. I just wouldn't chance a cheap part on a high dollar engine is all i'm pointing outto ya. One day I will have something cool here.

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: sdaurity] #1373668 01/22/13 03:35 PM 01/22/13 03:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,767 Hot Rod Ridge FastmOp master
FastmOp master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,767 Hot Rod Ridge	Mine is where the passenger seat should be. I had no room in the trunk to fit it or the water tank.

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: sdaurity] #1373669 01/22/13 03:57 PM 01/22/13 03:57 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 8,166 Left Coast B BobR master
BobR master B Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 8,166 Left Coast	Quote: Those are 199$ intercoolers. First pop, backfire, or oops moment they will bust the core and pump all the water out of them through the engine. I just wouldn't chance a cheap part on a high dollar engine is all i'm pointing outto ya. For road racing wouldn't an air to air innercooler be better? How long are the runs? The ice melts pretty quickly when you are pumping 400 degree air through it. Also, use a blowoff valve besides your boost control.

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: BobR] #1373670 01/22/13 04:52 PM 01/22/13 04:52 PM
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC L Luke OP member
Luke OP member L Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC	Quote: Quote: Those are 199$ intercoolers. First pop, backfire, or oops moment they will bust the core and pump all the water out of them through the engine. I just wouldn't chance a cheap part on a high dollar engine is all i'm pointing outto ya. For road racing wouldn't an air to air innercooler be better? How long are the runs? The ice melts pretty quickly when you are pumping 400 degree air through it. Also, use a blowoff valve besides your boost control. air to liquid for effiency, maybe i was wrong, the intercoolers weight a ton, i guess thats not necessarily a sign of quality....lol thanks Luke

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373671 01/22/13 05:06 PM 01/22/13 05:06 PM
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Abodyjohn88 member A Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 180 long island newyork	What heads are those?motor specs?

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373672 01/22/13 05:19 PM 01/22/13 05:19 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ Duner top fuel
Duner top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ	I've had $1,000 custom fabricated intercoolers break and leak... and also had $200 eBay intercoolers last forever. There is never any guarantee - regardless of what you pay for things, so I wouldn't let the $$$ spent be a factor. Where are you going to mount the heat exchanger/radiator for the intercooler system? Air/Water IS super efficient - but you have to be able to shed the heat that's introduced into the system.

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Abodyjohn88] #1373673 01/22/13 06:03 PM 01/22/13 06:03 PM
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC L Luke OP member
Luke OP member L Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC	Quote: What heads are those?motor specs? w9's, mopar intake, 4.10 stroke, scat crank and rods, JE custom pistons, 447 cid, kevco custom pan, 6 gates, wilson elbow and tbi, 6 speed tremec, quicktime scattershield, twin turbos the car is a nearly rust free 1965 Dart, Reilly alterktion front suspension, lynx triangulated rear, moser db axle, Wildwood brakes,etc full tubs, etc luke

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373674 01/22/13 06:24 PM 01/22/13 06:24 PM
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC L Luke OP member
Luke OP member L Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC	planning on running 245-40r17 in the front and 335-30 or 35 18's in the rear, quick ratio power steering, stabilizer bar, bump and ackerment adjustments, after talking to Rich from Fastman, will most likely go with fast efi 2.0 with traction control.... Luke

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: Luke] #1373675 01/22/13 06:30 PM 01/22/13 06:30 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ Duner top fuel
Duner top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ	Sounds like it will be a ball to drive!

Re: PROBABLY A STUPID IDEA BUT!!!! [Re: FastmOp] #1373676 01/22/13 06:32 PM 01/22/13 06:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ Duner top fuel
Duner top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ	It looks like you have a PTO coming from the driveshaft to power the water pump! LOL

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