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Re: Painting undercarriage....over restore or not? [Re: Silver70] #1366638 01/10/13 07:12 AM 01/10/13 07:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,567 Ky J jt4406 pro stock
jt4406 pro stock J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,567 Ky	I liked the bedliner idea to replace the factory undercoating too, but after checking with the manufacturer of the product I had (duplicolor), reading the directions on the can, and talking with a couple body men around home, all seem to indicate that it may cause recently sprayed paint to lift. Anyone sprayed it on new paint and had it cause problems with the paint coming unglued? Jess Yeah, it's hopped up to over 160...

Re: Painting undercarriage....over restore or not? [Re: jt4406] #1366639 01/10/13 11:01 AM 01/10/13 11:01 AM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,226 Cookeville Chilort Will Work For Mopars
Chilort Will Work For Mopars Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,226 Cookeville	1) If you plan on keeping the car then do what you think suits you best. When I do my non-numbers matching Superbee I do plan on using something other than paint. My current DD (a new car) has a textured finish underneath and the stuff is really tough. I like it. 2) If you think you might sell the car in the future, document the snot out of it now. Take pictures of it before you paint the bottom to show what the metal looks like, then after the coating goes on. There shouldn't be any questions. 3) I would think the thicker coatings would also help with road noise.

Re: Painting undercarriage....over restore or not? [Re: carcrazyguy] #1366640 01/10/13 01:21 PM 01/10/13 01:21 PM
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DAYCLONA I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,167 Mass	While I've done a number of vehicles for myself and customers in various forms/finishes, I am partial to the fully painted undercarriage, it looks much more professional, the "factory" oversprayed primer undercarriage while correct for an OEM build just looks like a hack job on a modified/customized car,...for an undercoated car, i much prefer using products like Rustoleums Bedliner in the sprayable gallon formula, it looks like "factory" when applied properly, yet doesn't discolor or absorb greases/oils like the factory stuff did.... Mike

Re: Painting undercarriage....over restore or not? [Re: jt4406] #1366641 01/10/13 02:11 PM 01/10/13 02:11 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA Silver70 I Live Here
Silver70 I Live Here Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA	Quote: I liked the bedliner idea to replace the factory undercoating too, but after checking with the manufacturer of the product I had (duplicolor), reading the directions on the can, and talking with a couple body men around home, all seem to indicate that it may cause recently sprayed paint to lift. Anyone sprayed it on new paint and had it cause problems with the paint coming unglued? Jess I use sem rock-it liner and never had any problems like that.

Re: Painting undercarriage....over restore or not? [Re: Silver70] #1366642 01/10/13 09:54 PM 01/10/13 09:54 PM
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carcrazyguy OP master C Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 9,404 Texas	Thanks for all the "suggestions"! Still not sure what I am going to do. Leaning towards gray paint (primer look) with undercoating only the wheel well areas. Anyway here are some updated pics of the car. 7541919-70DusterUnderJan2013.JPG (315 downloads)

Re: Painting undercarriage....over restore or not? [Re: carcrazyguy] #1366643 01/10/13 09:55 PM 01/10/13 09:55 PM
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carcrazyguy OP master C Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 9,404 Texas	The Texas "rusty" trunk floor. 7541920-70DusterTrunkFloorJan2013.JPG (227 downloads)

Re: Painting undercarriage....over restore or not? [Re: carcrazyguy] #1366644 01/10/13 09:56 PM 01/10/13 09:56 PM
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carcrazyguy OP master C Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 9,404 Texas	small area of the firewall....the rusty part! 7541922-70DusterFirewallJan2013.JPG (203 downloads)

Re: Painting undercarriage....over restore or not? [Re: carcrazyguy] #1366645 01/10/13 10:22 PM 01/10/13 10:22 PM
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carcrazyguy OP master C Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 9,404 Texas	After looking over the pics on the computer. I just noticed the area around where the gas tank mounts. Looks like my car had the black "dip".... Maybe I should go back that way, instead of grey? Yep...VIN confirmed..."E" plant. So yes an LA built car! Black it will be!! Last edited by carcrazyguy; 01/10/13 10:29 PM.

Re: Painting undercarriage....over restore or not? [Re: carcrazyguy] #1366646 01/10/13 11:32 PM 01/10/13 11:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Ok, if you want to go with the LA color dip you can get close with this blend: Take 1qt of Performance ACK-200 (920516) Black and add � pt of Performance DX-10-FLT flattener, I believe that�s 4:1. Of course the best match will be matching a sample of your own surviving dip coat, it's harder to match than most might believe, mine came out really close to my original.

Re: Painting undercarriage....over restore or not? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1366647 01/10/13 11:56 PM 01/10/13 11:56 PM
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carcrazyguy OP master C Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 9,404 Texas	I will pass the info onto the painter. The Duster almost ended the career of the painter. The first day on the rotisserie the painter had rolled the car to work on the underside. He walked around to the "roof side" to get a tool. As he was walking back he walked into the trunk hinge arm. It got him right on/in his right eye! He said "luckily I had my eye closed. But as soon as I hit it, I went DOWN. I reacheed up to feel the damage and my eye was watering like it had never watered before and it was bleeding like crazy"! It turned out that he cut his upper eyelid and when got it cleaned up it was just a small cut. Made for a nice black eye though. Thankfully he is doing fine and everthing is normal now except the small war wound on the upper eye lid. He now keeps towels taped around the hinges, JUST IN CASE!!!

Re: Painting undercarriage....over restore or not? [Re: carcrazyguy] #1366648 01/11/13 09:30 AM 01/11/13 09:30 AM
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JMCFAN top fuel J Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,138 New Mexico	Quote: I will pass the info onto the painter. The Duster almost ended the career of the painter. The first day on the rotisserie the painter had rolled the car to work on the underside. He walked around to the "roof side" to get a tool. As he was walking back he walked into the trunk hinge arm. It got him right on/in his right eye! He said "luckily I had my eye closed. But as soon as I hit it, I went DOWN. I reacheed up to feel the damage and my eye was watering like it had never watered before and it was bleeding like crazy"! It turned out that he cut his upper eyelid and when got it cleaned up it was just a small cut. Made for a nice black eye though. Thankfully he is doing fine and everthing is normal now except the small war wound on the upper eye lid. He now keeps towels taped around the hinges, JUST IN CASE!!! Whenever I am working....SAFETY GLASSES!! 68 Charger 383/ AT Green/Green VT 70 Roadrunner 383/4sp Purple/Black VT

Re: Painting undercarriage....over restore or not? [Re: JMCFAN] #1366649 01/11/13 09:26 PM 01/11/13 09:26 PM
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carcrazyguy OP master C Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 9,404 Texas	Quote: Whenever I am working....SAFETY GLASSES!! Because he thought this pics was funny enough to send to me. I may have to send him a pair of those as a gift! 7543058-70DusterJan2,2013offroadversion.jpg (268 downloads)

Paint suggestions....... [Re: carcrazyguy] #1366650 01/17/13 07:08 PM 01/17/13 07:08 PM
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carcrazyguy OP master C Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 9,404 Texas	Okay, I need to decide on the final details of the paint process for the Duster. First, what paint process should we use for the hood and the V24 style black out? I know the original organisol is not available from most suppliers (except high end resto suppliers). The painter is saying he would need 3 quarts for the hood and V24 blackout? Second, the interior door frame would be the same "black" as the hood blackout. But was it just the upper door frame or all the interior door frames? What about the C panel around the back quarter glass?

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