Re: How can I determine how rare my car may be?
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Not be be flip, but you are probably in the wrong hobby then. I'm not right side up on any of my cars by a long country mile. Also, remember, rare does not necessarily mean desireable, unless it is a Hemi. I was recently looking at a 68 Merc Monterey. Car was a fastback and I sure don't recall seeing many of them. The guy had done some work on the body and given it a paint job so it looked pretty good, but still, he was practically giving the car away because nobody wants a large Merc. One of the reason is parts availability. Many of the A and C body Mopars are the same way including my 67 Barracuda. Parts are available now for it, but it is not what many would call desireable, yet I love the car. First gen Chargers are the same. Can't help you with the numbers but I'm sure Galen has a book that could provide some general numbers if you wanted to buy it or if someone here has it they might help you out.
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Re: How can I determine how rare my car may be?
[Re: 66HEMICORONET]
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12/31/12 06:40 PM
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I'm trying to figure out the 1 of # for my 66 Coronet. I know that I can look at how many were built in that year to start. Then I can break that down again by engine then transmission and so on.
Galen's white books are often used to get the approximate numbers. But they are only going to get you the permutations of body/engine/transmission. No "so on" (like colors, options, etc.)
Which body style?
WE21, WE41, WL21, WL41, WH23, WH27, WH41, WP23, WP27, WP41 ?
Down to just a blue car now.
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Re: How can I determine how rare my car may be?
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12/31/12 08:02 PM
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Thanks for the input. I did find that same breakdown for 66 hardtop 440 Hemi as well after i replied. I do realize that rare doesn't always make them more desirable or more valuable. I know that to most it will never be worth as much as the 68 and 69 Coronets but it's a family project and at the end of the day it only matters that we like it. Heck i'm sure that we will never get rid of it anyway.
You have a BADAZZ car...it depends on how much you desire the car not anyone else..If you plan on keeping it as you say then spend the big bucks and do it right the first time...
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Re: How can I determine how rare my car may be?
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12/31/12 08:39 PM
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Not wanting to sound cheap but we don't want to put 40k in a 20k car. Thanks
As stated above...if you are not in it for resale, then either make the committment to restore the car (if viable) to an accepitble drivable condition or sell it to someone that will.
66's are the most numerous of Hemi cars but Hemi cars were not built in great quantity to begin with so don't get caught up too much by the numbers.
66's are not the most desirable body style but it's still a Hemi car. Do you think a 66 Hemi Coronet is that much slower than a 68?
It's still a Hemi.
When you look at the number of options, transmissions, colors, interiors, stripes, etc available at the time, "one of one" is no big deal. It's more likely that each car is unique. The hard part is finding two cars equipped exactly alike.
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1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs. Over 2,000 thanks to you!
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Re: How can I determine how rare my car may be?
[Re: 69CoronetRT]
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01/01/13 12:59 AM
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When you look at the number of options, transmissions, colors, interiors, stripes, etc available at the time, "one of one" is no big deal. It's more likely that each car is unique. The hard part is finding two cars equipped exactly alike.
To quote Dodge News Magazine, September 1965 (1966 model year):
"For instance you can get a Dodge Coronet today in an unbelievable 6,330,000 possible combinations of parts and accessories; enough combinations to keep an average Detroit production line operating for 25 years without producing two identical cars! Is it any wonder that forward-looking car makers, like Chrysler Corporation, have turned to the computer to speed car delivery to their customers. If every man, woman and child in the city of New York were to order a new Dodge Coronet, every single car could be different."
http://maxwedge.com/articles/cpu.php http://maxwedge.com/articles/1of1.php
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Re: How can I determine how rare my car may be?
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01/01/13 04:14 PM
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My opinion: Don't let that number factor into your decisions on your car. It means nothing. A nice car will be worth decent money whether its 1 of 1, or 1 of a million. If you're thinking your going to make money on a restoration; good luck, I think you'll be dissapointed. The reasons for anything you do with an older car should be purely personal satisfaction. If that aint in the equation, then you should find a hobby that lets you include it.
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Re: How can I determine how rare my car may be?
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01/01/13 04:45 PM
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Thanks for all the input guys. The car will be completely restored as soon as possible. After all we bought it from a guy that had it sitting in his garage for 38 years waiting for the right time. He finally realized he would never have the time or funds for it so he sold it to us so he could see it finished. Cheers to all. Happy new year.
A little over a year ago a white 2dr sedan 1966 Hemi Coronet 4spd sold at the Mecum for $50k unrestored #'s matching The drivetrain & Hemi specific parts are worth $20k roughly so if you have a basketcase it's worth putting $30k into to be at a reasonable figure
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Re: How can I determine how rare my car may be?
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01/01/13 04:49 PM
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I say just fix it and drive the hell out of it Too many show poodles out there now to make it worth your time and money for a total resto.Personally I don't think these cars will be worth much more than they are right now judging by the way the market is swinging now I know more than one person that cant even get the money back that they put into the restoration with the low prices out there now Did you happen to notice the the latest trends are farm fresh barn finds that people drug out of a garage somewhere Some of those cars are bringing more money than low dollar resto jobs. Gus
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