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Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: Mopar Mitch] #1356224
12/22/12 03:16 AM
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nth Degree was bought out by AEV from Montana...
(PS: I already am one of the fastest Mopars in the country... always looking for that extra nth degree of possible performance improvement.)



Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: astjp2] #1356225
12/22/12 06:17 PM
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Are you going with the road race Milodon pan for that Charger?

How about one of them cool Borgeson steering boxes as well?

Looking forward to some of them 71 - 72 Parts you are working on for my 72 Roadrunner. What kind of rear gear is in that Charger with that 500CI torque monster?

Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: PHJ426] #1356226
12/23/12 01:39 AM
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Are you going with the road race Milodon pan for that Charger?

How about one of them cool Borgeson steering boxes as well?

Looking forward to some of them 71 - 72 Parts you are working on for my 72 Roadrunner. What kind of rear gear is in that Charger with that 500CI torque monster?




The owner asked that we swap his oil pan for the Milodon Road Race pan. He did not ask for us to swap the steering box, and because of the need to cut the factory steering shaft we most likely won't carry that box. I am unsure of the rear gear ratio.

Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1356227
12/23/12 10:12 PM
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Check out how Rick Ehernberg and Mopar Action installed the borgeson box into a 69 GTX in the latest mag.

Looks like they didnt have to cut the column doing it the way they did and the pot coupling stays in place.

Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: autoxcuda] #1356228
12/23/12 10:30 PM
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Sweet ride! Still waiting for your 1.5" sway bar results!




Lucky that charger fit that sway bar in there. That k member is smashed, colapasing the cavity to pass the sway bar through.

Needs to dump that drag oil pan. Ride height must be set 4x4 to keep it from scraping.




Relax Steve, we are on it!






How about some pictures of that '62 Dart in the background. One of the lightest B-bodies made. Post car?





Or that 68

Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: dart4forte] #1356229
12/23/12 10:56 PM
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Or that 68




That is "Sally" a customer's car from DTM Racing. It's on its third round of modifications this time, a 5.2L Magnum in place of the 440 it had.

http://www.protouringmopar.com/showthrea...highlight=sally

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/events/...s/photo_09.html

Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1356230
12/25/12 10:48 PM
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Or that 68




That is "Sally" a customer's car from DTM Racing. It's on its third round of modifications this time, a 5.2L Magnum in place of the 440 it had.

http://www.protouringmopar.com/showthrea...highlight=sally

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/events/...s/photo_09.html





Curious how it handled with that big block

Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: dart4forte] #1356231
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Not terrible, but definitely not good. It was all iron. Biggest problem was massive understeer and very easy to over drive, which was a problem since the owner is a novice driver.

Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1356232
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Not terrible, but definitely not good. It was all iron. Biggest problem was massive understeer and very easy to over drive, which was a problem since the owner is a novice driver.





Handle better with a 360 or 340

Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1356233
12/26/12 01:06 AM
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Should have used a '71 2 door Plymouth instead of that Dodge... the wheel wells are bigger on a Satellite. Better body for a little larger wheel, and tire combo.

Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1356234
12/26/12 02:26 AM
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How about some pictures of that '62 Dart in the background. One of the lightest B-bodies made. Post car?



Its a 4-Door sedan we used for the Early B R&D. It has a full Hotchkis TVS and gets shop hand-me-downs. Weighed in at 3240.

Dan, how is the Hotchkis TVS package coming for early 1962-1965 B-Body Dodge and Plymouth? ETA on availability? Ready for MATS 2013?

Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: 1964superstock] #1356235
12/26/12 10:42 AM
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Handle better with a 360 or 340




That's the plan. She has a rebuilt 5.2L Magnum with a 4 speed O/D nestled in between her fenders now.

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Should have used a '71 2 door Plymouth instead of that Dodge... the wheel wells are bigger on a Satellite. Better body for a little larger wheel, and tire combo.




We will tell the owner some guy on the internet says he bought and built the wrong car. I'm sure he won't care.

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Dan, how is the Hotchkis TVS package coming for early 1962-1965 B-Body Dodge and Plymouth? ETA on availability? Ready for MATS 2013?




It's done, just need more cars to test fit on. The 62 is a really funky platform, and I'm pretty confident that they changed it up again in 63. If you know anyone who would like to submit their car for R&D, let me know. If its a car we haven't done before, I can work out a screaming deal.

Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1356236
12/27/12 09:19 PM
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Handle better with a 360 or 340




That's the plan. She has a rebuilt 5.2L Magnum with a 4 speed O/D nestled in between her fenders now.

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Should have used a '71 2 door Plymouth instead of that Dodge... the wheel wells are bigger on a Satellite. Better body for a little larger wheel, and tire combo.




We will tell the owner some guy on the internet says he bought and built the wrong car. I'm sure he won't care.

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Dan, how is the Hotchkis TVS package coming for early 1962-1965 B-Body Dodge and Plymouth? ETA on availability? Ready for MATS 2013?




It's done, just need more cars to test fit on. The 62 is a really funky platform, and I'm pretty confident that they changed it up again in 63. If you know anyone who would like to submit their car for R&D, let me know. If its a car we haven't done before, I can work out a screaming deal.




Too bad I'm up here in the cold NW or you could use my 71 RR as a test mule.

Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1356237
12/28/12 01:08 AM
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Should have used a '71 2 door Plymouth instead of that Dodge... the wheel wells are bigger on a Satellite. Better body for a little larger wheel, and tire combo.




We will tell the owner some guy on the internet says he bought and built the wrong car. I'm sure he won't care.

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I thought this was some type of test car that the R/D department would supply the suspension parts free of charge for the use of the car. I guess I was wrong, just thought a car with bigger wheel wells would be a better choice for R&D. It wasn't an attempt to offend you, or the cars owner.

Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: gregn96cuda] #1356238
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Don't apologize for expressing your opinion. The guy who built this car obviously does not care about how much money or time goes into it to make it right!! Shoot, according to Dan he is a novice driver, so a little less wheel well width won't make the slightest bit of difference.

Besides Dan can handle a little ribbing every once it a while.


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Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: Viol8r] #1356239
01/03/13 10:41 AM
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We've been slowly making some headwork through the holiday's and unfortunately came up on a pretty big road block on the R&D car. While we were taking measurements I came across this....


so some surgery is in order...



Gauging the metal...it's supposed to be 14ga.


and it's down to about 22ga where it isn't completely rusted through....


The piece removed...


Hoping to weld it up today, just waiting on the local steel house to finish up their year end inventory....

Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1356240
01/03/13 02:20 PM
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Superglue whould take care of that.

Darn, hope all else is good.


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Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1356241
01/03/13 02:24 PM
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Hoping to weld it up today, just waiting on the local steel house to finish up their year end inventory....




You could always try Schorr in Anaheim/Placentia...

Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: amxautox] #1356242
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Ya mean that is something that has to be fixed?

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Re: 71 Charger at Hotchkis for R&D [Re: mopardamo] #1356243
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my frame needed the same spot fixed as well, i wonder what caused it

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