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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353626
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There's a lot of weight to be found and ground off in body putty. The wrong body worker can put more than his share of unnecessary amount of putty which adds up in weight. The art of body massaging with hammers and dials can keep off the silly putty and if need be, ultra lightweight putty can be applied and sanded down to near nothing for a smooth and light weight surface. Even paints can add up if too much applied.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353627
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Definately a lot of extra material on that fender. Ok, so when do you give us the weight of that beast of yours.............

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353628
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When some one gets closer to the actual weight of it.
It's really deceiving and the Hero pieces that are yet missing are just a part why I haven't achieved my true goal yet.
Serious, not to be a nut cracker, I'll send a nice little prize in the mail to whom ever gets within close range or on the dot of the weight.
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353629
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There's a lot of weight to be found and ground off in body putty. The wrong body worker can put more than his share of unnecessary amount of putty which adds up in weight. The art of body massaging with hammers and dials can keep off the silly putty and if need be, ultra lightweight putty can be applied and sanded down to near nothing for a smooth and light weight surface. Even paints can add up if too much applied.



Now you tell me. I hate to guess the weight of the paint on mine. My buddy told me I should have left it like this.
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: dvw] #1353630
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I'm sure that because of the clean body panels you have, that it was not bad at all as far as weight applied is concerned.
I've seen areas even on my car way back that were filled and sanded lightly instead of hammering the imperfections all out and using a minimum of putty. Even an expert body worker will apply a lot at first and then end up sanding it almost completely off with only the minute low areas having a spec of it on. This is one of the reasons that labor is so costly with good body workers.
Trust me, I have my man sweating bullets over any unnecessary putty on those fenders.LOL.
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353631
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I'm sure that because of the clean body panels you have, that it was not bad at all as far as weight applied is concerned.
I've seen areas even on my car way back that were filled and sanded lightly instead of hammering the imperfections all out and using a minimum of putty. Even an expert body worker will apply a lot at first and then end up sanding it almost completely off with only the minute low areas having a spec of it on. This is one of the reasons that labor is so costly with good body workers.
Trust me, I have my man sweating bullets over any unnecessary putty on those fenders.LOL.



Here's preclean

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: dvw] #1353632
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Okay, I sit corrected.
Now there was an opportunity to keep weight off. LOL
A good thing about the Plymouths was/is that they are lighter than the Dodges anyhow. They are shorter by a couple of inches in some cases.
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353633
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I'll throw my dice in the game... 2750 dry. My gut instinct tells me we don't know the half of the secrets right now.
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353634
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here is a bracket engineering question. if fabbing a bracket out of mild steel, what is the lightning hole diameter to edge ratio ? in other words, is there a spec on how close to the edge a hole can be without compromising strength ? such as the bolt hole spacing/edge distance aerospace specs ?
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: moparx] #1353635
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I can't wait for the weight to be revealed. I'm gonna have some questions once it is.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: moparx] #1353636
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It would depend on the diameter of the bracket. Say for instance if a certain bracket either hand made or factory is say 1" wide, I would not go anything over 1/2" directly in the middle and of course this all depends on what duty that specific bracket has to do.
If it's a sensitive part where something may/is hanging on the limb, then even a smaller 5/16" hole or maybe even nada.
I personally prefer to make sensitive brackets out of 6AL4V Titanium and other non-sensitive brackets out of Aluminum either in 3003 which is malleable or 6061-7075 if it's a flat bracket needing strength.

I have at times asked of a 90% bend from 7075 or even 6061 Aluminum and came up short with a crack or a weakened crease. I'd rather carry more weight than to be sorry. Certain Dogs should be left sleeping.
Be careful out there and re-think all that is being done with hindsight.
I take second looks, first time.

Aluminum also likes to work harden itself, so keep an eye on things while going through your multi-point safety check before the races.

You guys do make safety checks right?

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: thedriver] #1353637
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I bet you are going to have many a question for me when it is revealed.

Another weight saving trick is to run with out trousers, cut your finger nails short, Shave, aluminum ignition key and try and vomit or use the John before the run. LOL.
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353638
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Every spring I work my way around the car with a tq wrench and bottle of red loctite. It's amazing what will try to fall off of a hotrod. Last year I found the steering box bolts loose!
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: thedriver] #1353639
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I can't wait for ThumperDart's revealing of his new found or loss weight.
Starting at 3200 was a jump start. He should be able to make sub 3000 with a little time.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Jeremiah] #1353640
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yeahppp. I find stuff loosened on my car all the time. Not only is the vibration a killer, but City potholes are a second cousin. I should send the DOT a bill for all my time underneath.
I visually check with good lighting at hand and patience all my gadgetry that I've made through out the years. So far, all's good.
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353641
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I can't wait for ThumperDart's revealing of his new found or loss weight.

One step foreward and three back seems to be in order for me on this thing. Got my old school pro stock hood scoop but after riviting on I can see thal I`ll have to remove it and remove the mounting lip only to try and contour it to the hood then attempt to make alum. brackets to REMOUNT it again and ATTEMPT to glass it in which I`ve never done. Now I know why guy`s turn [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] over to those that actually know what they`re doing. I may have to walk away for a bit to re group before pieces fly.............

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353642
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Walk away for a day or less and it will all come to vision.
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353643
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After much bs trying to fit sub adaquate crap on my overly drilled out hood, I decided to put my old 6-pack junk back on.............now I need to fill holes, sand and go from there. Fiberglass sucks to work w/and itches like hell..............

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353644
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If I'm following you right, you have tried to make a carbon hood from your original fiberglass one as a template?
I just saw a purple hood like yours with the same 6 barrel scoop on this board for sale. I thought it was your old one up for sale.
in any case, good luck with what ever you end with.
On some occasions, I've failed at things and had to start all over. My hood gave me grey hairs when I first started on that.
Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353645
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If I'm following you right, you have tried to make a carbon hood from your original fiberglass one as a template?
I just saw a purple hood like yours with the same 6 barrel scoop on this board for sale. I thought it was your old one up for sale.
in any case, good luck with what ever you end with.
On some occasions, I've failed at things and had to start all over. My hood gave me grey hairs when I first started on that.

I`m confusing sometimes, sorry................I had a 12 lb. glass hood made and tried the ol skool pro stock scoop and after a day and a half I`m done trying to make that work. So, I may just use the old 6 pack scoop or buy a new one since it is partly up in my tape line from the roof to the hood and my afr`s were dead solid at 12.8 @ wot IF that even matters.............My temperment sucks sometimes and get real frustrated when I can`t master something faster..............

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