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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353346
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Tubular chrome-moly shaft with Bondo Bob's work of art U-joint sleeve.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353347
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Titanium rooster tail bracket. Painted stainless to fool the Grinch. Saved maybe an ounce. LOL.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353348
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These are the cheapo high profile gold anodized feather weight valve covers. Usually about $20.00 Dollars at the swaps because everyone complains that they warp to easy. Hint:, don't tighten down the hatches too tight when installing them with good quality valve cover gaskets like the new Moroso blue types.
A little black magic was had with a body work hammer, billet steel block as a support underneath and finishing disc to flatten and smooth out the raised (embossed) Moroso logo.
Throw it all into a bath of Oven cleaner solution to rid it of the anodizing plating and then wet sand with 600 to gain some tooth.
Paint Hemi monster orange and add Super/Stock sticker and presto; Stock covers.
Stock Covers, Stock Covers, Stock Covers. You have to rehearse that in your mind so that you can look truthful when you say to those X-men that they're STOCK. LOL.
Steel covers were 2-3/4 pounds each. These? 1-1/2 pounds each. Saved 2-1/2 pounds on the engine.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353349
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I'm sorry I sold my Moroso covers

I'll go back to lurking, carry on!

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: roadhazard] #1353350
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AAAhhh but I'll save the best for last. Keep lurking. LOL.

If you'll don't mind for some humor, I'm gonna add some Pepper and sugar to the subject a little and start calling some Diet Scientist on here names.

Streetwize = Nutty Professor.

Thumperdart = Edward Sissorhands.

DVW = Dexter with a Diploma in hand.

Speedy383 = Texas Holesaw massacre.

Ron Silva = A hole in one.

Fullmetaljacket = Three card monte guy on Times Square.

Charger410 = Plastic surgeon on steroids.

LOL.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353351
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Nutty professor...lol, I like it more like Christofer Lloyd in 'back to the future' than Jerry Lewis though MUCH more the hands-on guy than the Lab type

I guess my 'gig' is I like to write not neccessarily to the question asker, but also to the dozens of 'lurkers' out there, the kids hungry to learn and think of things in another way.

My take on weight savings is basically this... I'm not a fan of drilling structural members of the frame to save weight because there are 'natural' and 'unnatural' conditions to consider. Save weight where it diesn't comprmise structural integrity, and where it aids in weight transfer or a more favorable CG. The strength you compromise to save weight for normal racing may only come back to bite you if something unexpected (like a wreck) happens. Unless you're a structural engineer, you probably can't accurately evaluate the extra risk you may be assuming just to save a few pounds

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Streetwize] #1353352
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Kinda like the old hemi SS post with: (Charlie, Bucky, Jeff)

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Streetwize] #1353353
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Wisely said. Couldn't agree more. I think people have confusion of the difference in tube chassis cars and factory chassis cars.
CG is the unsung hero never considered by those trying to get light.
I myself am guilty of going behind stage and making unbalance decisions.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353354
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Balance being the key word here.... I'm trying to move the CG back to at least the firewall.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353355
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AAAhhh but I'll save the best for last. Keep lurking. LOL.

If you'll don't mind for some humor, I'm gonna add some Pepper and sugar to the subject a little and start calling some Diet Scientist on here names.

Streetwize = Nutty Professor.

Thumperdart = Edward Sissorhands.

DVW = Dexter with a Diploma in hand.

Speedy383 = Texas Holesaw massacre.

Ron Silva = A hole in one.

Fullmetaljacket = Three card monte guy on Times Square.

Charger410 = Plastic surgeon on steroids.

LOL.


I feel more like Edward "cut-off wheel"


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353356
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I must be going about this wrong as i have to add weight to mine

2800# with no fluids...
Glass hood...
Glass bumpers w/aluminum brackets...
Complete interior except back seat...
25.5 c-moly cage...

Carry on...Nice thread

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Gary Robbins] #1353357
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You must have a Small block, only small blocks can boast those numbers. LOL.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Gary Robbins] #1353358
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I must be going about this wrong as i have to add weight to mine

2800# with no fluids...
Glass hood...
Glass bumpers w/aluminum brackets...
Complete interior except back seat...
25.5 c-moly cage...

Carry on...Nice thread




I have the weight of your whole car just on the front wheels of mine... then there's the rest of the truck in the back. Like I already said - I'm working feverishly to JUST move the CG to the firewall.

Nice car by the way!

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Duner] #1353359
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I'm going to throw this out there

I have made this suggestion to both Performance Only and also Jerry

do you guys think the a CNC lightning program for the 73 spindle would be something mopar guys would pay for? it has to be the bigest chunk of cast iron I have ever seen and compared to what Brand X uses it's twice as big and heavy


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Duner] #1353360
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Porsche racing engineers calculated that rotating mass is only worth 1.4 pounds for every pound of mass removed. The figure of 3, 4 or even 6 pounds per actual pound removed is an old wives tale. Still, magnesium and titanium are very good friends, along with wood, plastic, cardboard, carbon fiber and aluminum.

Had a good friend years ago that said "throw it up in the air..... if it comes back down, it's still too heavy."


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: sixpackgut] #1353361
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Quote:

I'm going to throw this out there

I have made this suggestion to both Performance Only and also Jerry

do you guys think the a CNC lightning program for the 73 spindle would be something mopar guys would pay for? it has to be the bigest chunk of cast iron I have ever seen and compared to what Brand X uses it's twice as big and heavy




No I don't think there will be enough mopar people that would do it. I would do it though and would love to see it done.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: John Brown] #1353362
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Porsche racing engineers calculated that rotating mass is only worth 1.4 pounds for every pound of mass removed. The figure of 3, 4 or even 6 pounds per actual pound removed is an old wives tale




Even 1.4 pounds may be pushing it.

It makes perfect sense to me that removing XX amount of rotational weight should be Way better then removing xx of dead weight.

But from my testing in the 1/4 mile it pretty much came out the same as far as a performance gain.

My conclusion was that the rotational weight that has the "Time" to rotate up to speed in the distance of the whole 1/4 mile pretty much acts like dead weight, for the average cars ET. The faster the car the more the effect rotationl weight will show its advantage.

Now at the Crank, way different story

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353363
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You must have a Small block, only small blocks can boast those numbers. LOL.




After seeing some of the #'S these smallblocks have been putting up has me second guessing as i could run at less weight!!!

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Gary Robbins] #1353364
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Ooooh some ones got a Wedgey.

It's hard to believe the 2800 lbs with a wedge head, Let us in on the secrets.
Beautiful car by the way.

I'll post some interesting flicks of the madness on this side of the fence some time soon. but here's a hint.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Gary Robbins] #1353365
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Felix's bag of tricks.

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