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Hotchkis E max Challenger driven by an Actor
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12/17/12 02:42 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ufEpb_WIR0Looks like an interesting show, don't know how credible he is.
Too many cars, too many parts, too little coin, too little space to work in, too little time left to make it all happen!
Update: down to one ride, still too many parts, a little more jingle in the pocket, gaining space, and it's going to happen this year!
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Re: Hotchkis E max Challenger driven by an Actor
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Depends on what you wanted out of a car 'back in the day'. Same as today, we think the cars are built great, but in 40 years people will talk about the 'crappy build quality' of today's cars. And we here now are complaining about some of the crap quality, so you know it'll be talked about in 40 years, IF ANY of today's cars even last that long. I have my doubts. Plastic doesn't last as long as steel. In the '70s the cars stood up great for all the crap we put them thru. Back in the 50s the cars were built great, same for the '60s, & '70s for the day. The '80s: no where nears as good a build quality, '90s getting better again. Kept getting better as the years came up with better technology. And so on. 
Tom
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Re: Hotchkis E max Challenger driven by an Actor
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12/17/12 03:12 PM
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Man he keeps saying inaccurate things, makes me wonder if I want to finish watching the vid. I'm only 1:39 into the vid.
Tom
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Re: Hotchkis E max Challenger driven by an Actor
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12/18/12 02:15 PM
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That guy's attitude and perspective bother me. He goes in with the attitude that all muscle cars are crap, expecting the car to be slow. And what do you know?! He drives it slow. Quote:
I think he was just afraid to crash it. If you try and drive that car conservatively, you'll be slow.
I agree with that.
I haven't (and won't) watch any more of his videos, but I'm willing to bet he's not much of a driver in any car on a road course.
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Re: Hotchkis E max Challenger driven by an Actor
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12/18/12 04:57 PM
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Anyone's car -- old, new, muscle, sports, etc -- can have different design charachteristics for handling. The final decision maker, all the time, will be the nut behind the wheel!... Some nuts are better than other nuts when behind the wheel, regardless of the car's modifications, amount of $$ spent, etc.
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Re: Hotchkis E max Challenger driven by an Actor
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12/21/12 03:31 AM
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Depends on what you wanted out of a car 'back in the day'. Same as today, we think the cars are built great, but in 40 years people will talk about the 'crappy build quality' of today's cars.
I am a Reagan Baby and I'm still waiting on jet packs and a star wars defense system! I thought hover board travel was going to be "off the ground" by now. All we got was astronaut ice cream.
The way that worked out and the current trend of Fiestas and Aveos I think we will be pining for the old days of "quality" built 300's and Taurus' in the future.
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Re: Hotchkis E max Challenger driven by an Actor
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12/31/12 08:04 PM
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I think he was just afraid to crash it. If you try and drive that car conservatively, you'll be slow.
My thoughts exactly. Who wouldn't be afraid to shoot a webcam show, while driving on a race track, with other cars that are trying to get by him as fast as possible, in a car he is unfamiliar with that doesn't belong to him? The last thing he wants is to crash a nice car while filming a webcam show.
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Re: Hotchkis E max Challenger driven by an Actor
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01/01/13 12:05 AM
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I think he was just afraid to crash it. If you try and drive that car conservatively, you'll be slow.
My thoughts exactly. Who wouldn't be afraid to shoot a webcam show, while driving on a race track, with other cars that are trying to get by him as fast as possible, in a car he is unfamiliar with that doesn't belong to him? The last thing he wants is to crash a nice car while filming a webcam show.
true, if i was filming the show - i'd do it with the camera on for a lap, then I'd turn the camera off and see what the car can really do - then report back on your findings...
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Re: Hotchkis E max Challenger driven by an Actor
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01/01/13 02:05 PM
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Remember one thing, Matt is not a race car driver or an actor. He's never had a musclecar either.
I call him an "actor" because that is what he is in this instance. I don't know what kind of credibility he lends to the situation of driving any car in a race or demonstration situation.
Therefore, actor, poser, or some other impolite or uncalled for things that come to mind could be used to describe what he is up to.
He is clearly acting in this peceived situation, or demonstration of his skills, (or lack of), while driving cars that are known as proven, performing cars when in the hands of a skilled, knowledgeable drivers.
My intent was never to slander the actor; just to highlight the car, and the comparisons seen in the presentation (show).
What the actor has done to himself, is truly his problem. The cars are the stars.
Too many cars, too many parts, too little coin, too little space to work in, too little time left to make it all happen!
Update: down to one ride, still too many parts, a little more jingle in the pocket, gaining space, and it's going to happen this year!
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Re: Hotchkis E max Challenger driven by an Actor
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01/01/13 02:34 PM
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He's 'acting' in front of a camera for a 'show'. He's an 'actor', in this case anyway. I never heard of him, don't trust his words, about the car, racing, anything. He seems to have no credentials. Why should we trust his word?
You want someone to review your Challenger, hire/let someone with car and race credentials test the Challenger.
How about Mike/Mr Angry from NY, NY. He's in Calif. now doing car vids in a business. Stu can probably get you in touch with Mike. Others will remember his last name and the name of the business and YouTube video series on cars and driving.
Tom
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Re: Hotchkis E max Challenger driven by an Actor
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01/02/13 04:31 PM
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I, too, agree with the poor acting and credibility of the video person. Maybe he was told what to say in a pre-written script by others affiliated with him in making the video. when i first saw the video, I was dissapointed in the way, and words, which it was presented. He hasn't been "around" long enough to have any good credentials, let alone accurate experience in this particular subject he presented.
Mopar Mitch
"Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers!
Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!
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Re: Hotchkis E max Challenger driven by an Actor
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01/03/13 05:59 PM
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Hotchkis; Get ahold of THIS guy, Mike Musto/MrAngry, if you want someone who knows how to DRIVE. He'll put your Challenger thru it's paces properly.  He ain't no actor, OR poser. I'd be honored to meet him, even if he is just a kid.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUaN21qZZSw
Tom
"Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing."
-Henry David Thoreau
Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths
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Re: Hotchkis E max Challenger driven by an Actor
[Re: Dan@Hotchkis]
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01/06/13 06:53 PM
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We are great friends with Mike.
Then there's no excuse!
Big fan of the Big Muscle videos Mike does. One of the only car review programs I can bare to watch.
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