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Real AAR air cleaner lid? #1351143
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i am trying to determine if the lid i have is the real deal, or aftermarket. are there any markings on a factory piece? i don't seem to see any on this one, but there was an old "340 SIX BARREL" sticker that was painted over, a newer one was on top of it. and under that painted label, was what appeared to be older looking paint. so, i was just wondering how to tell the difference!

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Re: Real AAR air cleaner lid? [Re: KillerCuda] #1351144
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Weight is a big thing. The repo's are very light compared to an Original. If you have a known newer issue 6 pack lid hold it in one hand and hold what you think maybe the real 6 pack lid, You will feel the difference esily...Can't weigh mine to give a weight no small scale...Hope that helps..

Re: Real AAR air cleaner lid? [Re: KillerCuda] #1351145
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I thought they were the same as the A12 lift-off-hood covers and if so I'm looking for the thread over on the Registry that shows a dent at the rear for the wiper motor and some other small details or telltales. A photo off the rear edge or the complete cover would help if you have one?

Re: Real AAR air cleaner lid? [Re: A12] #1351146
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No wiper motor issues with these on E-bodies, that is a myth.

Got a photo of the one you have?

Re: Real AAR air cleaner lid? [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1351147
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Since this came up on the registry and now again, this weekend I'll put mine on a food scale then maybe someone can get the weight off of the repro.


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Weight is a big thing. The repo's are very light compared to an Original. If you have a known newer issue 6 pack lid hold it in one hand and hold what you think maybe the real 6 pack lid, You will feel the difference esily...Can't weigh mine to give a weight no small scale...Hope that helps..




thanks for this idea, i have a small weight scale, and a newer 440 six pack lid, so i will weigh both, take pics of both, and post my findings here for future use on the site. thanks again folks!

Re: Real AAR air cleaner lid? [Re: KillerCuda] #1351149
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The lids for a fiberglass hood has a lip on the edge, for a metal hood it will not have the lip

Re: Real AAR air cleaner lid? [Re: Southern Wolf] #1351150
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A real lid has a flat on 1 side which is at the back of the lid on the edge. Repro's do not have this.


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Re: Real AAR air cleaner lid? [Re: KillerCuda] #1351151
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a few pics of my findings, in boxing announcer voice of course: "in this corner, weighing in at 4lbs. and .2oz, mister repro 440 six pack lid........"

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Re: Real AAR air cleaner lid? [Re: KillerCuda] #1351152
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"and in this corner, mister AAR lid, unknown origin, weighing in at 4lbs. and 1.4oz....."

so, what's your opinion people, repro? my assumption would have been from what others said, that it would weigh more than one ounce heavier if it was real, but who knows. me thinks older repro, if not original...

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Re: Real AAR air cleaner lid? [Re: KillerCuda] #1351153
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also, what the heck is the closest 'real' AAR engine color? the stuff on here is an awful, dull pumpkin orange, but underneath the sticker is a little brighter. the pic makes the pumpkin color not look so bad, but the color underneath is much nicer in my opinion. just curious, as i have a 340TA motor to paint soon, and would like it to be accurate!

thanks for any input people,
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Re: Real AAR air cleaner lid? [Re: KillerCuda] #1351154
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I've had my lid for far longer than the repro's have been available so I know it's an original piece.
It weighs 3 lbs 13 1/4 oz.

I could see a few extra coats of paint and a few extra stickers being the difference of 2.5 oz's.

Now we need a known repop weight.

Not to force it but I whipped this up to show the difference between the A12 T/A AAR lids and the '6 pack' lid since they be confusing if you're not 3 X 2 savvy.

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Now we need a known repop weight.





thanks for the info, also, i show a repop weight pic right above the AAR lid pic. they weigh about the same, so much for the weight being a tell tale!

Re: Real AAR air cleaner lid? [Re: KillerCuda] #1351156
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my scale = 150 lb x 0.2 lb

my lids - RR one is (not that rusty ) - all originals - 2 on the right are NOS sorry, none w/lips

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Now we need a known repop weight.





thanks for the info, also, i show a repop weight pic right above the AAR lid pic. they weigh about the same, so much for the weight being a tell tale!




There you go, you're weighing two different lids, one has the lip, one does not.
Apples to oranges.

Ahh but now we have a weight for the original type n96 lid from Dan.

It would appear the repop weighs a half pound more than an original.

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Now we need a known repop weight.





thanks for the info, also, i show a repop weight pic right above the AAR lid pic. they weigh about the same, so much for the weight being a tell tale!




There you go, you're weighing two different lids, one has the lip, one does not.
Apples to oranges.

Ahh but now we have a weight for the original type n96 lid from Dan.

It would appear the repop weighs a half pound more than an original.




I have original lids and repo lids and you can feel the weight difference. I traded a member(BlackHemiRR) on here and original non fresh air 6 pack lid for an original A-12 lid but also took him a brand new repo 6 pack lid. He even held both of them and could not believe the difference in weight....Mine were bare though,no heavy primers with coats of paint and clear which can easily add up to extra weight. The repos are the ones that are thinner and lighter...

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Original 71-6V lid was 3lbs, 6oz on digital scale, Original A12 Lid was 3lbs, 11oz.

If it helps any...

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