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Build me a 9 second pump gas motor #1350599
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Hey guys,

I`m looking to build a pump gas BB that will get well into the 9`s.

Here is what I have.73 duster backhalfed,12 point cage.

I have a 400 block and a 4.25 stroker crank.

4spd Lenco.

can this be done?



thanks Mike

Re: Build me a 9 second pump gas motor [Re: griff70440] #1350600
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12-14lbs of boost should help a lot. I think my buddies duster was running ported B-1 heads, 12.5:1, 680 solid roller, 5200 stall, not sure what gears and he was in the 9's.


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Re: Build me a 9 second pump gas motor [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1350601
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12-14lbs of boost should help a lot. I think my buddies duster was running ported B-1 heads, 12.5:1, 680 solid roller, 5200 stall, not sure what gears and he was in the 9's.




OR... a HEMI with 10.5 comp, stage V heads, .690 lift roller, 5200 stall, 4.30 gears, bruno, 4sp jeffco, 3220 lbs.

9.11 @ 148

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Re: Build me a 9 second pump gas motor [Re: 572_HEMI_Cuda] #1350602
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Re: Build me a 9 second pump gas motor [Re: 572_HEMI_Cuda] #1350603
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12-14lbs of boost should help a lot. I think my buddies duster was running ported B-1 heads, 12.5:1, 680 solid roller, 5200 stall, not sure what gears and he was in the 9's.




OR... a HEMI with 10.5 comp, stage V heads, .690 lift roller, 5200 stall, 4.30 gears, bruno, 4sp jeffco, 3220 lbs.

9.11 @ 148

video


Not to shabby for it's 1st shakedown pass in street trim with 4 mufflers.

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Re: Build me a 9 second pump gas motor [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1350604
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12-14lbs of boost should help a lot. I think my buddies duster was running ported B-1 heads, 12.5:1, 680 solid roller, 5200 stall, not sure what gears and he was in the 9's.




What fuel would you run with 12-14 lbs of boost

Re: Build me a 9 second pump gas motor [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1350605
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Re: Build me a 9 second pump gas motor [Re: griff70440] #1350606
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Hey guys,

I`m looking to build a pump gas BB that will get well into the 9`s.

Here is what I have.73 duster backhalfed,12 point cage.

I have a 400 block and a 4.25 stroker crank.

4spd Lenco.

can this be done?



thanks Mike




You do know there is another post right now on the
same subject.. you might read through it

Re: Build me a 9 second pump gas motor [Re: griff70440] #1350607
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Do you know what the car will weigh Mike?

Re: Build me a 9 second pump gas motor [Re: ProSport] #1350608
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I haven`t weighed it.Its probably going to be around 2900-3000lbs
the body is all steel,except the bumbers and the hood.I`m planning on putting all the factory glass back in the car.

What did your Dart Sport weigh in at?

Re: Build me a 9 second pump gas motor [Re: griff70440] #1350609
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At 3000 lbs with a 500" motor, you could get there with 10 lbs of boost on pump gas if you accidentally sneezed. And that would be with 3.55 gears and around a .550 hydraulic roller. You wouldn't need any special heads and could use Eddy heads but I would try to find a set of used Indy-1's just because they are out there for a pretty reasonable price. This motor would run on pump 93 with 9:1 compression.

Re: Build me a 9 second pump gas motor [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1350610
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12-14lbs of boost should help a lot. I think my buddies duster was running ported B-1 heads, 12.5:1, 680 solid roller, 5200 stall, not sure what gears and he was in the 9's.




What fuel would you run with 12-14 lbs of boost





E-85 or 93 w/ Meth/H2O injection on an 8.8:1 engine... Of course you'd need an MSD boost delay box as well. That or have full timing at about 28-30*.

Re: Build me a 9 second pump gas motor [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1350611
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12-14lbs of boost should help a lot. I think my buddies duster was running ported B-1 heads, 12.5:1, 680 solid roller, 5200 stall, not sure what gears and he was in the 9's.




What fuel would you run with 12-14 lbs of boost





E-85 or 93 w/ Meth/H2O injection on an 8.8:1 engine... Of course you'd need an MSD boost delay box as well. That or have full timing at about 28-30*.




I can see it with E-85

Re: Build me a 9 second pump gas motor [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1350612
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A production Gen4 Dodge Viper does not run a 9 second qtr mile...
w/o mods....

Re: Build me a 9 second pump gas motor [Re: fishy340] #1350613
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12-14lbs of boost should help a lot. I think my buddies duster was running ported B-1 heads, 12.5:1, 680 solid roller, 5200 stall, not sure what gears and he was in the 9's.




What fuel would you run with 12-14 lbs of boost





E-85 or 93 w/ Meth/H2O injection on an 8.8:1 engine... Of course you'd need an MSD boost delay box as well. That or have full timing at about 28-30*.




I can see it with E-85





My buddy runs a f2 with 15 lbs of boost with meth injection with 8.8 static compression. Car went 9.41 at 146 mph, weights 3450lbs. You can do it. That was with 36 total and .5 degree pulled per pound starting after 5 pound of boost.

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Re: Build me a 9 second pump gas motor [Re: griff70440] #1350615
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I haven`t weighed it.Its probably going to be around 2900-3000lbs
the body is all steel,except the bumbers and the hood.I`m planning on putting all the factory glass back in the car.

What did your Dart Sport weigh in at?




You'll have no problem at that weight and with all the new stuff out there these days. The DartSport weighed 3050# with me in it, I weigh 200.

My next big block will be a low deck 470 with some EZ heads, it would be an easy 9 second combo, especially on E85 with high compression.

My 69 Dart ran 9.80's with a 500" low deck at 3200# with 440-1 heads but the cam was way wrong and the heads only flowed 329 so it actually ran well with low compression.


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Re: Build me a 9 second pump gas motor [Re: 1967dartgt] #1350616
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12-14lbs of boost should help a lot. I think my buddies duster was running ported B-1 heads, 12.5:1, 680 solid roller, 5200 stall, not sure what gears and he was in the 9's.




What fuel would you run with 12-14 lbs of boost





E-85 or 93 w/ Meth/H2O injection on an 8.8:1 engine... Of course you'd need an MSD boost delay box as well. That or have full timing at about 28-30*.




I can see it with E-85





My buddy runs a f2 with 15 lbs of boost with meth injection with 8.8 static compression. Car went 9.41 at 146 mph, weights 3450lbs. You can do it. That was with 36 total and .5 degree pulled per pound starting after 5 pound of boost.




My stock cast 440 rebuild went 12.90's then I added 6 psi of boost ran 12.0's, swapped pulleys and never got a chance to run it before I sold it but it was about 9:1, I ran 93 had timing in full at 38* but dropped 1* per lb of boost. Only time I cooked a piston is when I forgot to turn on the fuel pump (guy in front of me broke his axle and they shut us off)...whoops still made it 3/4 track on the mechanical pump... shame would have been an 11 second pass. Went 12.28 coasting across the stripe....lol







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