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Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: demongup] #1350301
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I am in the middle of building my first B1 combo. I will be able to give a good compassion to the -1 heads. I currently run a 528 ci ,mega block,and nothing off the shelf rotating parts.I am using the same cam, crank ,compression ration..etc .I'm changing the heads ,intake and headers. When I'm done in the next 12-16 weeks I will give some info up




I really think you're going to need a B1 specific cam, or you won't see the real potentail of the heads.

Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: camastomcat] #1350302
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u mean my purple shaft wont work...lol

I want to use the same stuff for an apples to apples comparison , my parts are good and expensive to replace . I have allot of work and tuning to do and want to see where I need to make changes based off my current set up. If it makes sense to u I am increasing the rocker ratio
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Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: demongup] #1350303
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I am in the middle of building my first B1 combo. I will be able to give a good compassion to the -1 heads. I currently run a 528 ci ,mega block,and nothing off the shelf rotating parts.I am using the same cam, crank ,compression ration..etc .I'm changing the heads ,intake and headers. When I'm done in the next 12-16 weeks I will give some info up




Original-M/C-PSO ?

Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: joshking440] #1350304
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B1 originals . I have compared them to the pso . It would take allot of work to fit the cast intake to those. I have had the heads cnc'd and did a lay over onto the pso and there sure is allot of material available  on the pso . ....one day .

Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: demongup] #1350305
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B1 originals . I have compared them to the pso . It would take allot of work to fit the cast intake to those. I have had the heads cnc'd and did a lay over onto the pso and there sure is allot of material available  on the pso . ....one day .




Kool,will be a great comparison!!!!

My lowdeck -1 540 makes 900ish...
The RB B1 original 588 made 1050ish with a little more comp.& cam and surprisingly on 500rpm difference in peak power..

Amen on the PSO'S...I've never ran the top/best heads and PSO'S will be my next head!!!

Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: demongup] #1350306
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Josh do tell who is making the CAST aluminum block? Asssuming this is a 5.0 or better BS block? Be nice if they made a 4.9 bore space piece so one could use up the avaiable pro stock heads out there that are plentuful.


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Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: joshking440] #1350307
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Its in stock



hi josh, how much and whats the ci of it ?
thanks wes


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Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: wesw] #1350308
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Its in stock



hi josh, how much and whats the ci of it ?
thanks wes




Read up a bit and you will find its a 734ci and wants 50K


And most likely its a Donovan Block.... or maybe one of Darts newer Blank 5 inch blocks. Ours in a Donovan but some modifications had to be made for the outside heads bolts.

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Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: Diablo] #1350309
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The block is originally a Titan, and we have a couple.

We may be pouring more soon.......

Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: joshking440] #1350310
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i think a 604 w/B1s would make a good street engine..i would use a purple shaft cam and have the best of both worlds...

Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: B1Fish540] #1350311
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i think a 604 w/B1s would make a good street engine..i would use a purple shaft cam and have the best of both worlds...


Step up to the 650 Comp flat tappet and I bet you would have a winner
My uneducated , untried recipe; 604 with B1 heads, Comp 650 cam, Titanium intake valves in 2.3 diameter, 1.6 rockers, tunnelram with twin 750 carbs. 2 1/8 headers 35 inch long, 4 inch collecters. Use a small combustion chamber with a big dish piston for 11/1 compression?

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Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: gregsdart] #1350312
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i think a 604 w/B1s would make a good street engine..i would use a purple shaft cam and have the best of both worlds...


Step up to the 650 Comp flat tappet and I bet you would have a winner
My uneducated , untried recipe; 604 with B1 heads, Comp 650 cam, Titanium intake valves in 2.3 diameter, 1.6 rockers, tunnelram with twin 750 carbs. 2 1/8 headers 35 inch long, 4 inch collecters. Use a small combustion chamber with a big dish piston for 11/1 compression?




Yes! Greg! and this would go in a 63 Dodge Polara...vintage S/S clone

Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: B1Fish540] #1350313
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Big inch nitrous engines days are numbered in heads up racing , a turbo small block will eat most 844cid nitrous cars at the same weight . (And be easier to maintain and cost less . ) Just look at the 2012 SCSN pro street race .

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Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: go green] #1350314
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Mmmmm I'm not so sure.

In Vegas I agree. But nitrous cars are really playing ball in x275 and other classes.

4.23 for hustille if I got the name right on a 315

Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: joshking440] #1350315
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I liked the b-1 heads but they just didn't make enough power to go TS racing naturally aspirated.

Anyone have any used Predator heads for sale..

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572ci B1 7.90 172MPH
Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: Clockwork] #1350316
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I liked the b-1 heads but they just didn't make enough power to go TS racing naturally aspirated.

Anyone have any used Predator heads for sale..





How fast do you need to be in T/S? And at what weight?

Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: camastomcat] #1350317
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I am 2650lbs. Just can`t get there with my B1 stuff.


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Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: Clockwork] #1350318
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7.90 was with spray I am assuming ? What will the car run N/A ?


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Re: B1's - Why not more popular for Big strokers?? [Re: Edge] #1350319
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7.90 was with spray I am assuming ? What will the car run N/A ?




I would assume that's N/A......Our 572 B1 at 2,500 pounds has run 7.68 with a Lenco, 7.90's with a glide

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Santa arrived a week early today i got my B1s thnx too Camastomcat they are very impressive head

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