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Re: Suspension, what's next? need help [Re: SpareParts] #1347705
12/08/12 05:32 PM
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Shackle angle is fine, made sure I paid attention to that. Cal tracs will not be seen on this car for as long as I can avoid it. They make things easier but I'd rather do the homework and keep it spring only. Less is more approach is kinda what the car goes by.




Keep the front segments as stiff as possible.. take the
clamps off the rear segments... that'll give you as
much rotation as possible... then its up to the shocks
to control the lift... then IF needed you can add
clamps on the rear(but I doubt it)

Re: Suspension, what's next? need help [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1347706
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one other item in that Afco article was the relationship of the spring surface to the spring seats. If there is any difference side to side (camber) that really messes with spring rate.


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Re: Suspension, what's next? need help [Re: SpareParts] #1347707
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Shackle angle is fine, made sure I paid attention to that. Cal tracs will not be seen on this car for as long as I can avoid it. They make things easier but I'd rather do the homework and keep it spring only. Less is more approach is kinda what the car goes by.




Boy< ain't that the truth!


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Re: Suspension, what's next? need help [Re: MikeyT] #1347708
12/08/12 07:53 PM
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mike
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Shackle angle is fine, made sure I paid attention to that. Cal tracs will not be seen on this car for as long as I can avoid it. They make things easier but I'd rather do the homework and keep it spring only. Less is more approach is kinda what the car goes by.




Boy< ain't that the truth!




Lol, ^^^^ this guys seen the car in action. Did I surprise ya Mikey?

Re: Suspension, what's next? need help [Re: SpareParts] #1347709
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Shackle angle is fine, made sure I paid attention to that. Cal tracs will not be seen on this car for as long as I can avoid it. They make things easier but I'd rather do the homework and keep it spring only. Less is more approach is kinda what the car goes by.




Boy< ain't that the truth!




Lol, ^^^^ this guys seen the car in action. Did I surprise ya Mikey?




Oh yes! Goes better then most, and looks awesome too!

Mike


1969 Dodge Dart Swinger
Re: Suspension, what's next? need help [Re: MikeyT] #1347710
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Put a Good set of true leaf springs and Good double adj.shocks, and go have some fun....

Re: Suspension, what's next? need help [Re: Dartwizer] #1347711
12/09/12 03:05 AM
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Put a Good set of true leaf springs and Good double adj.shocks, and go have some fun....


What are a "good set of leaf springs" I had my best luck with a A body using a BB with Ma Mopars 002/003 leafs, street and strip


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Re: Suspension, what's next? need help [Re: Cab_Burge] #1347712
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What about a pinion snubber? Is one required with the ss springs to achieve maximum body lift?

Re: Suspension, what's next? need help [Re: Cab_Burge] #1347713
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Put a Good set of true leaf springs and Good double adj.shocks, and go have some fun....


What are a "good set of leaf springs" I had my best luck with a A body using a BB with Ma Mopars 002/003 leafs, street and strip


I used the 002/003 leafs myself,had good luck with them.They wore out,put a new set of 002/003.Not so good,maybe the vendor is different now.Had Gregg Luneak at Tri City Launcher make me a set for my 70 Dart. Cheap,no.But they work for me.

Re: Suspension, what's next? need help [Re: Dartwizer] #1347714
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Here is pic of the springs,Mopar left ,Tri City right

7495495-IM001116.JPG (52 downloads)
Re: Suspension, what's next? need help [Re: Dartwizer] #1347715
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Mopar bottom,Tri city top

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Re: Suspension, what's next? need help [Re: moparguy7074] #1347716
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What about a pinion snubber? Is one required with the ss springs to achieve maximum body lift?




A pinion snubber was a bandaid on stock wornout springs...
if the spring is doing the job properly it will give
lift.... I believe the rear clamps are most of his
problem due to the fronts trying to lift but as it
does the rear is trying to pull it back down so it
ends up as a wash in his case

Re: Suspension, what's next? need help [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1347717
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I had my best luck with CalTracs and mono leafs. It feels a lot firmer when leaving than the SS springs did. I thought the 002/003 springs were for a 2800 LB car

Re: Suspension, what's next? need help [Re: babarracuda] #1347718
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I had my best luck with CalTracs and mono leafs. It feels a lot firmer when leaving than the SS springs did. I thought the 002/003 springs were for a 2800 LB car




Ted, I keep telling the kid, that, but he doesn't believe me! He insists on doing stuff the hard way!

PS. I do respect him for it too.
Mike


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Re: Suspension, what's next? need help [Re: MikeyT] #1347719
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I had my best luck with CalTracs and mono leafs. It feels a lot firmer when leaving than the SS springs did. I thought the 002/003 springs were for a 2800 LB car




Ted, I keep telling the kid, that, but he doesn't believe me! He insists on doing stuff the hard way!

PS. I do respect him for it too.
Mike


I hear ya on this one and I too tried to do the most w/the least till I woke up and stepped up to a bolt in suspension that surpasses most.............


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Re: Suspension, what's next? need help [Re: MikeyT] #1347720
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I had my best luck with CalTracs and mono leafs. It feels a lot firmer when leaving than the SS springs did. I thought the 002/003 springs were for a 2800 LB car




Ted, I keep telling the kid, that, but he doesn't believe me! He insists on doing stuff the hard way!

PS. I do respect him for it too.
Mike




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