Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads
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I just had someone apply for the machinists position opening a couple days ago. On his application he noted his expected salary of 38.00 dollars an hour plus benefits. This happens to be a person with less than 3 years experience in this field.
Holy crap, I'd move down there if you're paying anywhere close to that! I have 6 years of auto machine experience.
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Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads
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11/30/12 10:30 AM
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The cheaper 4340 steel crankshafts, rods, etc. area made in China. Where and how they are finished might be a different story. I started doing this stuff 25 years ago and have been gathering parts and trading stuff for years, I'm not what you would call "richy rich". But the real truth is, you can't expect people that have to pay employees and light bills, and health insurance, that buy quality parts, to sell gold for the price of silver. My point about GM stuff is, if you wanr less expensive quality race stuff, go GM. If we run all of the Mopar guys out of business, that will be our only option. If the 440 source stuff works, great. But don't compare that to Callies, Winberg, Oliver, GRP, etc, because there is no comparison. And if you continue to stand in line at Walmart, eventually Walmart will be the only place to shop. That's my point.
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Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads
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11/30/12 10:45 AM
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The cheaper 4340 steel crankshafts, rods, etc. area made in China. Where and how they are finished might be a different story. I started doing this stuff 25 years ago and have been gathering parts and trading stuff for years, I'm not what you would call "richy rich". But the real truth is, you can't expect people that have to pay employees and light bills, and health insurance, that buy quality parts, to sell gold for the price of silver. My point about GM stuff is, if you wanr less expensive quality race stuff, go GM. If we run all of the Mopar guys out of business, that will be our only option. If the 440 source stuff works, great. But don't compare that to Callies, Winberg, Oliver, GRP, etc, because there is no comparison.
And if you continue to stand in line at Walmart, eventually Walmart
will be the only place to shop. That's my point.
I have to agree with Tom 100%!Now it seems strange that all of you that run the cheaper 600 hp parts..(and their is nothing wrong with that if thats what you chose to do)are the ones that bash Indy,B1 and anyone else that tries to step up and make some Hi-Quality parts.If you don't run them and don't plan to run them why bash them? And then to take offense to someone just making a statement about the cheap lower grade parts.Some of us who are not Rich work extra hours to have a little extra $$$ to put into our race cars.
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Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads
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11/30/12 11:02 AM
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I just had someone apply for the machinists position opening a couple days ago. On his application he noted his expected salary of 38.00 dollars an hour plus benefits. This happens to be a person with less than 3 years experience in this field.
Holy crap, I'd move down there if you're paying anywhere close to that! I have 6 years of auto machine experience.
Chip, I know the last two places he worked at and i know for a fact his pay was not over 14.00 an hour in either shop. He could've come in and made "alittle" better money to start and been in a nicer environment with up to date equipment, (something he knew very little about by the way) but he already had the attitude that if i didn't hire him i must be an idiot. Hmmm, I don't think i'm an idiot, nor do i think i'll hire a guy with that kind of attitude anyway. Hey, I meant to ask you; did you get that box i sent out in time?
As far as the offshore vs. USA made stuff, we sell both and i see the need for both in this hobby, especially in our current economic climate. I hope we can put some Americans back to work in manufacturing to make our choices an easier decision.
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Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads
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11/30/12 11:05 AM
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So will Joshking440 be able to fix ridiculous shipping charges from Indy or is he just going to be a puppet,Who will be used as a whipping Post? Indy charges drop ship fees as well as ridiculous shipping charges to really put salt in the wound. Personally I don't see the realtionship lasting since Russ Flagle is a complete pompous azz who's as narcisistic as Napolean Bonaparte.
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Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads
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11/30/12 01:00 PM
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So will Joshking440 be able to fix ridiculous shipping charges from Indy or is he just going to be a puppet,Who will be used as a whipping Post? Indy charges drop ship fees as well as ridiculous shipping charges to really put salt in the wound. Personally I don't see the realtionship lasting since Russ Flagle is a complete pompous azz who's as narcisistic as Napolean Bonaparte.
He'll do as he's told by his superiors and possibly suggest and interject ideas as he see's fit as he becomes comfortable in his role. As Indy signs his paycheck he can't be reinventing the wheel- he's playing in their sandbox and has to follow their rules/ direction. Just my
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Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads
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11/30/12 01:26 PM
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After Josh coming on here offering to HELP everyone,when you call Indy and speak with Josh if he has a Bad Attitude I wonder who will be the blame for it? I have brought & spent a lot of $$$ with Indy never had a problem with them,even talk to Russ one time when I need information the person on the phone could not help me with. I know everyone on here is Good People maybe some times we just have the wrong attitude when we call Indy because we are having problems with our Race-Cars and take it out on them....if you don't believe me you can call home and ask my Wife if a sales person is rude to me its just not going to be a Good day for them.
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Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads
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11/30/12 01:48 PM
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After Josh coming on here offering to HELP everyone,when you call Indy and speak with Josh if he has a Bad Attitude I wonder who will be the blame for it?
I have brought & spent a lot of $$$ with Indy never had a problem with them,even talk to Russ one time when I need information the person on the phone could not help me with.
I know everyone on here is Good People maybe some times we just have the wrong attitude when we call Indy because we are having problems with our Race-Cars and take it out on them....if you don't believe me you can call home and ask my Wife if a sales person is rude to me its just not going to be a Good day for them.
This could be true if it didn't happen so much. You have done well with their products and obviously have a better report with them. But, as others have said, call Predator, Bob George, Marsh, or others for stuff. They will take care of you. I think even Josh, since he has the patience of a saint, IMO, (Mopar Madness) might be able to do some good with these guys. Cause the stuff they sell is good. And even I would like to be sure they stay around. Let them do what they do....make Mopar quality parts and Josh can hopefully bridge the gap in tech service!
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Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads
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11/30/12 02:22 PM
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So will Joshking440 be able to fix ridiculous shipping charges from Indy or is he just going to be a puppet,Who will be used as a whipping Post? Indy charges drop ship fees as well as ridiculous shipping charges to really put salt in the wound. Personally I don't see the realtionship lasting since Russ Flagle is a complete pompous azz who's as narcisistic as Napolean Bonaparte.
He'll do as he's told by his superiors and possibly suggest and interject ideas as he see's fit as he becomes comfortable in his role. As Indy signs his paycheck he can't be reinventing the wheel- he's playing in their sandbox and has to follow their rules/ direction. Just my
Josh, I have a few suggestions. I'll wait until the next time I talk to you though.
I don't think people are giving the "puppet" enough credit.
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Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads
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11/30/12 02:34 PM
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After Josh coming on here offering to HELP everyone,when you call Indy and speak with Josh if he has a Bad Attitude I wonder who will be the blame for it?
I have brought & spent a lot of $$$ with Indy never had a problem with them,even talk to Russ one time when I need information the person on the phone could not help me with.
I know everyone on here is Good People maybe some times we just have the wrong attitude when we call Indy because we are having problems with our Race-Cars and take it out on them....if you don't believe me you can call home and ask my Wife if a sales person is rude to me its just not going to be a Good day for them.
This could be true if it didn't happen so much. You have done well with their products and obviously have a better report with them. But, as others have said, call Predator, Bob George, Marsh, or others for stuff. They will take care of you. I think even Josh, since he has the patience of a saint, IMO, (Mopar Madness) might be able to do some good with these guys. Cause the stuff they sell is good. And even I would like to be sure they stay around. Let them do what they do....make Mopar quality parts and Josh can hopefully bridge the gap in tech service!
Again Tom you are are close to 100% right If any of you Mopar people have not talk to or done business with Performance Only be it Indy or B1 you might want too,One of the few Good Guys From Mopar! That's who I would now be using if not for needing Sponsorship $$$(more are less be on & help with the race cars)and having to go over to "The Dark Side" in order to get it. If their is a "Bright Side"and their is to the "Dark Side" you get a Head Ache with all the Millions of Hi Quality race parts!Believe me when I say this US true Mopar Racers deserve the same & should have the same,but don't!
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Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads
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So will Joshking440 be able to fix ridiculous shipping charges from Indy or is he just going to be a puppet,Who will be used as a whipping Post? Indy charges drop ship fees as well as ridiculous shipping charges to really put salt in the wound. Personally I don't see the realtionship lasting since Russ Flagle is a complete pompous azz who's as narcisistic as Napolean Bonaparte.
He'll do as he's told by his superiors and possibly suggest and interject ideas as he see's fit as he becomes comfortable in his role. As Indy signs his paycheck he can't be reinventing the wheel- he's playing in their sandbox and has to follow their rules/ direction. Just my
Josh, I have a few suggestions. I'll wait until the next time I talk to you though.
I don't think people are giving the "puppet" enough credit.
Never said he was a "puppet" but my life experience says that unless he's a partner in the business, he's not gonna come in and re-invent the wheel at Indy. At least not right away... I use Indy products so far with no issues. I've used their email tech line for questions also with no problems and quick answers.
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Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads
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11/30/12 06:36 PM
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So will Joshking440 be able to fix ridiculous shipping charges from Indy or is he just going to be a puppet,Who will be used as a whipping Post? Indy charges drop ship fees as well as ridiculous shipping charges to really put salt in the wound. Personally I don't see the realtionship lasting since Russ Flagle is a complete pompous azz who's as narcisistic as Napolean Bonaparte.
Well I dont find your name in the system as to justify your shipping charges.... Ive searched all people with the name Ghandi
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