Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes...
[Re: tboomer]
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11/26/12 09:05 AM
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Eric....I heard that Bob won't drive go-karts...
You got that right Ted,go-karts are for little kids. It's like dating the ugly fat girl,they can be a lot of fun but you wouldn't be able to "Bear" it if some one seen you.
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Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes...
[Re: Jeepmon]
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11/26/12 12:50 PM
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The longer the bars the more leverage they have. You planning on using them as a tuning tool or a safety device? Lots of stuff to learn if you plan to use them as a tuning device for sure. If you truly use them in this way 1/4" and inch the wrogn way can lead to very bad results. I'll show you in a bit. As for how long. HP plays a rol as well as rear suspension set up weight bias, shocks and how well they control things and so on. This is how I did it with the big tire car. We loaded the car in the trailer as far forward as I was comfortable with. Shut the rear door and measured what was left. Viola we had our bar length, in my case 74". I sure you know we use them as a tuning aide on both cars. I tend to ride the bars for a fair amount. Back to the 1/4" deal. In this video and picture my crew chief had the bars set incorrectly. 1/4" of stagger on the wrong side lead to this. This is midflight Oh yeah this was with a set of 50" bars on the car. Which do not provide near enough leverage on my car. We went to the long bars but bent the uppers three times before we finally buolt a set of double wall slip tube uppers. Like I said we tended to ride them pretty hard back then. We now have a much better pair of custom built rear shocks and can calm it down a bunch. Here is the video version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhaW9zfEkZE&feature=plcp
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Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes...
[Re: Jeepmon]
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11/27/12 07:31 PM
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Some wheelie bars have flat bar for the bottom, some have round tube.. does this make any difference?
Also, we've measured the clearance in the trailer and we have between 60 and 65 inches of room with the door close.. Is this an appropriate length for a Duster, A body car?
The lower bar doesnt matter... that is in tension but the upper bar is in compression... if you can get 65" in your trailer then thats what your gonna run... no way would I spend time to pull the bars off every time I wanted to load... I use to have my cabinets at the front but with the golfcart in front and the car behind I was too long... so I winched the car in backwards so the bars would go under the cart... then I moved my cabinets to the left side of the trailer and I can pull the cart to the front wall and drive the car in forwards now... I have about 6" to spare now
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Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes...
[Re: hemi-itis]
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11/27/12 07:43 PM
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Solid round tube is what you want..Not spring loaded or flat spring types. IF you want something you can tune with. If you want the look then by all means AS for length way to many facotrs but in general the longer the better. Better leverage less shock..
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Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes...
[Re: hemi-itis]
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11/27/12 07:46 PM
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On the chute deal if you are looking for ease of packing thats easy. Stroud wins hands down. In my case we pull it once a year so that is not a big deal.
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Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes...
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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11/27/12 08:00 PM
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Solid round tube is what you want..Not spring loaded or flat spring types. IF you want something you can tune with. If you want the look then by all means AS for length way to many facotrs but in general the longer the better. Better leverage less shock..
Al is correct and mine are round bar(I dont care for the flat ones) but if you go with a 65" I would run the springs at the wheel... they slow the impact on shorter bars otherwise it will unload the tires... I usually run the wheels about 2" off the ground in gear(in my sig pic they are 4")
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Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes...
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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11/27/12 10:32 PM
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Solid round tube is what you want..Not spring loaded or flat spring types. IF you want something you can tune with. If you want the look then by all means AS for length way to many facotrs but in general the longer the better. Better leverage less shock..
Since I really don't know much about bars, what is the problem with flat style or springs? I guess I'm just looking for something to keep it from going up to high. Don't believe I'll use them to tune,just a safety net to save the oil pan and headers. Any thoughts? Doug
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Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes...
[Re: dvw]
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11/28/12 02:07 AM
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Doug you will likely be fine with them. They work great for that purpose, but not as a tuning aid. Difficult to control a wheelie ith a spring loaded bar.
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Re: Wheelie Bars and Parachutes...
[Re: dvw]
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11/28/12 08:23 AM
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What about the single wheel bars?
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