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Re: Gen3 question 6.1 [Re: Lightning] #1337293
11/22/12 08:25 PM
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I've got a stupid question about the Gen 3's: How come they don't seem to need the bigger duration like the older engine's do?




better port design....if you have a head that flows 320cfm with good port velocity and strong low lift flow, you don't need nearly as big of a cam as you do if you have a head that flows 220....


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Re: Gen3 question 6.1 [Re: Lightning] #1337294
11/22/12 10:53 PM
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Plus I think I read that once duration gets too high, the stock Gen III engines run into piston to valve clearance issues, someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's an issue as well

Re: Gen3 question 6.1 [Re: WO23Coronet] #1337295
11/24/12 06:47 PM
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Plus I think I read that once duration gets too high, the stock Gen III engines run into piston to valve clearance issues, someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's an issue as well




Spot on - 228 Intake is about the limit with the 6.1

The Arrington ST3-A runs this intake duration and AJ from that company confirmed to me that P-V was pretty tight but they get away with it.

But back to the duration question - these are Hyd roller profiles...so its apples and oranges comparing to the old LA flat tappet.


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Re: Gen3 question 6.1 [Re: Moparmal] #1337296
11/26/12 04:43 PM
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Plus I think I read that once duration gets too high, the stock Gen III engines run into piston to valve clearance issues, someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's an issue as well




Spot on - 228 Intake is about the limit with the 6.1

The Arrington ST3-A runs this intake duration and AJ from that company confirmed to me that P-V was pretty tight but they get away with it.

But back to the duration question - these are Hyd roller profiles...so its apples and oranges comparing to the old LA flat tappet.




This.


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Re: Gen3 question 6.1 [Re: AlexP] #1337297
11/26/12 04:55 PM
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Alex, are you still in standing with Franks?

Re: Gen3 question 6.1 [Re: Garry Owen] #1337298
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Alex, are you still in standing with Franks?




On a business level, no. Personally, yes.

I can help you either way.


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Re: Gen3 question 6.1 [Re: AlexP] #1337299
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Just comparing cams, I know Fri had some pretty good cams.
So far I've got a couple in mind.
Comp 268
Spartan Max
Arrington st3a
And something comparable in a Fri.

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