1000+ HP..410Ci What whould You Build Sm or BB
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Class rules, Single 4 with Cast Manifold 410CI Max Gas or Alcohol No nos Natural aspirated Need to make 1050 to 1150 HP ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/1343795-scratchchin.gif)
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Re: 1000+ HP..410Ci What whould You Build Sm or BB
[Re: EvilB1Dart]
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P5 smallblock if you can figure out an intake......P7 and start from scratch with raw head and manifold castings, or maybe a 4.500 x 3.22 lowdeck PSO. A Millennium head will support the hp per cube as well, built in an outlaw SS/AH fashion I'd bet with less stroke.
Any max effort deal with that "ci" will be in the 9000+ rpm range.
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Re: 1000+ HP..410Ci What whould You Build Sm or BB
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Hmmmm, N/A 10,000 RPM 400" low deck big block with some good B1's.....that would be a bad b*tch! I remember Chuck at Best Machine built a de-stroked N/A big block B1 motor for a mud truck; that thing had some ONIONS! I use to have pics & info on it, but lost them on my old computer.
i remember that engine, had the streched dominator on it.
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Re: 1000+ HP..410Ci What whould You Build Sm or BB
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A Victor Glidden headed Ford or an SB2.2. Feel free to flame away but it is the truth. Unless you can score a P5 motor which there is one on RJ right now. Or want to spend the money on R&D on a P7 deal. It SHOULD be able to be done I dont think anyone has put the time or money yet in yet. Lot's of proven combos with the Ferds and Chevies out there.
Are they actually going to pump motors? One of the issues at SCSN is they dont and there is a lot of specualtion that some folks are fudging. Especially when they come here from back east and run better than they do all year long. At our elevation.
Maybe a nice set of W8's and enough money and time. Chris Fairchild has a very nice W8 NA SB he has been thinking of selling. Might be worth a call.
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Re: 1000+ HP..410Ci What whould You Build Sm or BB
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10/28/12 03:09 PM
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I'll stay on the porch, thank you very much! You boys want to chase that thing through the thickets and the underbrush, go right ahead!
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Re: 1000+ HP..410Ci What whould You Build Sm or BB
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a 410 ci ts headed
There are only 2 Mopars that run this Class. The one has TS Heads and the other uses Pro Stock Truck Hemi Heads
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Re: 1000+ HP..410Ci What whould You Build Sm or BB
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I'd go low deck big block for lower piston speeds....1100HP out of 410 cubes is going to nee to spin to 9k plus...also going to need some SERIOUS head flow...
or I'd look at the gen III hemi...the apache head should be able to support a ton of power, I thought the aftermarket aluminum block was available in siamese bore...
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Re: 1000+ HP..410Ci What whould You Build Sm or BB
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We need to know your budget. If you think your going to get there for under 25k with ANY combination your kidding yourself
![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/whistling.gif) Never Mentioned any thing about having a budget..... Some of the other Guys that run that Class have about $50k in Engines..
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Re: 1000+ HP..410Ci What whould You Build Sm or BB
[Re: Dave W]
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A canted valve chevy small block would make that pretty easy. We have a 358 that makes 960. Tom Slawko has a killer head program no matter if you use SBC canted, sb 2.2 or even the mopar. he's making a set now for a mopar austrailian pro stock motor. Let your wallet be your guide ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif)
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Re: 1000+ HP..410Ci What whould You Build Sm or BB
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We need to know your budget. If you think your going to get there for under 25k with ANY combination your kidding yourself
I would say more like 40-50k that is what 1000 plus HP Chivy or phord will set you back.
That said for inline head and cast intake hard to beat w8 combo. (must use zuse casting). But 980-1020HP small block mopar can be done. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/penguin-006.gif)
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Re: 1000+ HP..410Ci What whould You Build Sm or BB
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Not to sprinkle salt on your cheerios, but that kind of motor/budget is not going to be built by a bunch of keyboard jockeys. I would imagine that a few on here COULD do it, but they sure aren't going to supply a parts list and specs! This is the kind of thing that you should talk over with a few builders and decide which ONE to follow, not 10 guys with different ideas. I'd expect a number of DAYS of dyno time just for valvetrain comparisons. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-xayfZTGC0
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