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Yesterday I was looking at the new Mopar Muscle as I grabbed it off the mag stand and read it while sitting at the Pharmacy waiting for my oxycodone refill.

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What I'd like to know (op) is what does your oxycodone refill have anything to do w/the subject 64 SuperStock Dodge?

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Bob, respectfully.....No, you have me all wrong. Don't assume that I feel that I am uttering any sort of gospel when it's the furthest thing from the truth just because I choose to "put my head out of the rabbit hole" and debate a claim of originallity. What I'm trying to get accross (apparently which little success) is when someone, anyone comes to the table with an example of a detail that deviates from what was the production line "norm" that they should understand that it will be viewed with skepticism without producing rock solid evidence to back it up before it will be accepted as an actual production line variable or possibility. I am not, and would never say #1. That someone is a liar. #2. That it was impossible. #3. That it never happened. All I am asking for is some backup to prove the claims. Photos of cars back in the day, even if taken the day of delivery, do not provide that proof, especially with something so easy to change or modify.

Bottom line? MAYBE there were some Orange/Red/Chrome air cleaners put on at the factory, in fact if it happened that would be cool! But so far nobody here has posted enough evidence to make it indesputable.

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Ok,Scott,I admit I'am a liar,BSer and senile and your on a crusade to set the world right.I think you have been in your rabbit hole to long and have put that carrot in the wrong hole also.Your disatertion or diatrob only proves you can't admit your wrong and only further goes to show who you really are.Watch out for Almer Fudd,he may pop your head off the next time you it out of your "rabbit hole"you silly rabbit.
PS: I don't have you "all wrong" you prove to everyone who you really are".Buy the way my brother Tony said to tell you happy Thanksgiving and that he's having rabbit and carrots this year instead of turkey and taters.

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Since this thread won't die, might as well throw another coal on the fire. http://s79.beta.photobucket.com/user/jcailey/media/MOV02234.mp4.html

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Try stop frame This film has been altered ,the covers were originally pink. Lets all just bend over and kiss Scotts carrot reamed anal cavity.The rabbit has spoken.

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Your disatertion or diatrob only proves you can't admit your wrong and only further goes to show who you really are.

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I'll HAPPILY admit I'm wrong as soon as you prove it, so far you haven't.

Cool video, those fat rear tires and fenderwell headers factory as well?


BG, quit fantasizing about my anal cavity you freaking perv!

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Your disatertion or diatrob only proves you can't admit your wrong and only further goes to show who you really are.

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I'll HAPPILY admit I'm wrong as soon as you prove it, so far you haven't.

Cool video, those fat rear tires and fenderwell headers factory as well?


BG, quit fantasizing about my anal cavity you freaking perv!

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Scott,I'am not fantasizing about your "carrot infested butt".The only fantisizing going on is in that little head of yours.I don't have prove anything to you,just let everyone know the real facts that me and many others already know since we lived the mopar life then and now and give you a forum to show your distinguished characterization of "life according to Scott Smith".You should pen a novel and we can find it at the book stores under ficton.

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I'll HAPPILY admit I'm wrong as soon as you prove it, so far you haven't.

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I'll HAPPILY admit I'm wrong as soon as you prove it, so far you haven't.

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Using your guidelines, it is not possible to prove beyond any doubt, that factory production line air cleaners were available in any color, including black from the factory. Unless you have something in writing from Chrysler, from back in 62 or 63 staing air cleaners will only be available in black and even then, anything you produce, someone else can take your stance and use your same argument and say not a real copy or it has been altered.
I worked for and raced Dodges back in 60's and 70's. Nothing was ever cast in stone during production. If they ran out of the required part, and they had something else that fit so they could complete the order and not old up the assembly line, it was put on the car.
HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GREAT TURKEY DAY.

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Many or most all of us that have lengthy experience with Chrysler know that on any given order on any given day you could expect a surprise from Chrysler.I prepped new cars at the dealership in the early 60s and seen many oddities such as wrong trim,unsilanced air clearners,daul exhaust and small hubcaps on luxury models,the list go on.We even had a 383/4speed station wagon with maxwedge exhaust manifolds and the dump tube exhaust.

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Scott
Using your guidelines, it is not possible to prove beyond any doubt, that factory production line air cleaners were available in any color, including black from the factory. Unless you have something in writing from Chrysler, from back in 62 or 63 staing air cleaners will only be available in black and even then, anything you produce, someone else can take your stance and use your same argument and say not a real copy or it has been altered.
I worked for and raced Dodges back in 60's and 70's. Nothing was ever cast in stone during production. If they ran out of the required part, and they had something else that fit so they could complete the order and not old up the assembly line, it was put on the car.
HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GREAT TURKEY DAY.

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It's not "my" guidelines we are talking about. I'm the first one to admit that odd things COULD and did happen at the factory, but before calling any of those oddities fact, I look at the provable facts to back them up. Sometimes proving them fact never happens because of lack of evidence, and sometimes another example or two surfaces at a later time that matches and validates them, that's just the way it is.

When something was optional at the factory it was put in writing and offered to the customer. Does anyone have such documentation? If so it hasn't been posted here. Black air cleaner paint was standard, not optional, therefore as with most other production detail items you won't usually see it mentioned or listed in any kind of factory documention.

Does anyone have a single example of an original air cleaner that still wears it's factory paint job and decals in any other color but black? I have some black ones, what have you guys got to show? No, finding some OEM paint orange ones still wouldn't be solid proof that they were put on a car in production (vs over the counter, etc.) because you still couldn't determine for certain that it rolled off the line that way, but that would be a much more solid start than just a single example based on old pictures of a modified car taken months or years after being delivered.

I agree, Happy T-Day to all

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Scott
Using your guidelines, it is not possible to prove beyond any doubt, that factory production line air cleaners were available in any color, including black from the factory. Unless you have something in writing from Chrysler, from back in 62 or 63 staing air cleaners will only be available in black and even then, anything you produce, someone else can take your stance and use your same argument and say not a real copy or it has been altered.
I worked for and raced Dodges back in 60's and 70's. Nothing was ever cast in stone during production. If they ran out of the required part, and they had something else that fit so they could complete the order and not old up the assembly line, it was put on the car.
HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GREAT TURKEY DAY.

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It's not "my" guidelines we are talking about. I'm the first one to admit that odd things COULD and did happen at the factory, but before calling any of those oddities fact, I look at the provable facts to back them up. Sometimes proving them fact never happens because of lack of evidence, and sometimes another example or two surfaces at a later time that matches and validates them, that's just the way it is.

When something was optional at the factory it was put in writing and offered to the customer. Does anyone have such documentation? If so it hasn't been posted here. Black air cleaner paint was standard, not optional, therefore as with most other production detail items you won't usually see it mentioned or listed in any kind of factory documention.

Does anyone have a single example of an original air cleaner that still wears it's factory paint job and decals in any other color but black? I have some black ones, what have you guys got to show? No, finding some OEM paint orange ones still wouldn't be solid proof that they were put on a car in production (vs over the counter, etc.) because you still couldn't determine for certain that it rolled off the line that way, but that would be a much more solid start than just a single example based on old pictures of a modified car taken months or years after being delivered.

I agree, Happy T-Day to all

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Give it a break Scott,you brought a knife to a gunfight.No one gives a rats or rabbits behind that they need to prove anything to you,What proof do you have that what you say is correct.By continueing to babble is just destroying you reputation and creditability.Haven't you embarrassed your self enough already.I enjoy sparring with you,but it's to the point that I feel your a hopeless case.Why don't you give us all the proof,facts and backup data to prove any or all of your statements,I await your responce.All we have from you to at this point is a bunch of doubble talk.Have you no self respect?
And on a serious note to you and everyone,this isn't funny or enjoyable any more,it's like kicking a crutch from under a cripples arm or the day you have put down "old Shep" to end his misery.

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Give it a break Scott,you brought a knife to a gunfight.No one gives a rats or rabbits behind that they need to prove anything to you,What proof do you have that what you say is correct.By continueing to babble is just destroying you reputation and creditability.Haven't you embarrassed your self enough already.I enjoy sparring with you,but it's to the point that I feel your a hopeless case.Why don't you give us all the proof,facts and backup data to prove any or all of your statements,I await your responce.All we have from you to at this point is a bunch of doubble talk.Have you no self respect?
And on a serious note to you and everyone,this isn't funny or enjoyable any more,it's like kicking a crutch from under a cripples arm or the day you have put down "old Shep" to end his misery.

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Yesterday I was looking at the new Mopar Muscle as I grabbed it off the mag stand and read it while sitting at the Pharmacy waiting for my oxycodone refill.

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Bob, you choose to ignore legitimate questions and turn a friendly debate into rediculous rantings and personal attacks on me and my reputation doesn't deserve any further reply from me, enjoy your day!

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True to your past performances nothing to back up your mouth.Crawl back in your "Rabbit Hole"This whole thread with your post should have been included in the story of "Alice in Wonderland"
You feel you need to have the last word will end nothing."Silence is golden and remember to be thought of as a fool is one thing to open your mouth will usually remove all doubt.
I have never attack you,I just told things that are real in the real world,that you choose to debate or refute me and many others was you error.I tried to keep it humorous and entertaining but you want to make it personal,so far Scott against the Mopar world,Scott-0,Mopar world-1.Stay seated in your corner and don't come out for round 2.We have all figured out your fight plan,you don't have one. And you are correct we don't need any further responce from you.To say I ignore your post is incorrect,I responded to them all and you ignore me and others.