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What is the best way to determine assembly date, broadcast sheet shows order date, which will also be indicated on fender tag, if car has original door tag believe that is the assembly date, how do you determine assembly date if door tag has been removed?

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What car ? what year ? Also the date on the fendertag and the Broadcast sheet is the SCHEDULED production date , not the order date , but that date is not etched in stone.

You need to look at assemblies and parts on the car to get you close to actual date .

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One car is a 1970 Challenger, other 71 Charger both have sheets but no door tags, so sounds like need to check all date codes and latest date would establish your final assembly date, is there any particular assembly that is typical the last part built / date coded.

Re: Determining Assembly Date? [Re: lrtexpress] #1320071
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For the 1970 Challenger, what are the first seven numbers in the top line of the broadcast sheet?

What are the last four numbers in line 5?

Email a scan of it if you like.

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For the Challenger

First Seven 1036336

Last Four 1025

Re: Determining Assembly Date? [Re: lrtexpress] #1320073
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OK, does the VIN end in 630?

C07 scheduled production date?

Also, other than Y05, does it show any other Y codes?

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That's the car, were are you seeing the Y05, looking at the sheet did not see any other Y codes.

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The Y codes are in the top line of the broadcast sheet at the right.

Your car would have had a Mylar door sticker date of 12 - 1969

I would not be surprised if you found some parts dated late in the month.

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How does the Y05 translate into 12-69 ?

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It doesn't. Some other Y codes can change things at times, that is why I asked if it had any others.

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So then were did you look to determine the 12-69

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Years of research on 1970 Hamtramck cars, VIN sequence vs. SPD vs. actual production, broadcast sheets & Mylar door sticker data.

It takes a lot of time.

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Could you help out with one other for a assembly date, 70 TA last six digits of VIN: 299188

Who would you recommend to reproduce the door Mylars?

Thanks Barry for gathering all that data to help out!!!!!!!

Dave

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ECS is the only legal source for the stickers as far as I know.

Do you have a broadcast sheet for the T/A? I have some history on it, but I have not seen a broadcast sheet for it yet.

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No I do not have a sheet, yes would be nice if it turned up. , know car was restored by Bill Turgeon, and then shown at couple national events,have the Chrysler Registry ( GG ) letter date July 31,2001, a repo Retail Price Label, and magazine article March 03. If you have any additional info would be great

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Send me an email & I can forward some stuff.

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An untested theory: I don't know if this is correct or not, but it makes sense to me. I understand tires were mounted on wheels in a work room above the assembly line, and the tire/wheel assemblies were chuted down to the cars on the line.

All known date codes on all the parts of my car were put in a list, and it turns out the date codes on the wheels were the newest parts on my car.

Scheduled Production Date on fender tag - B08, 11/8/68.
One original wheel, date coded 11/11/68.
Two original wheels, date coded 11/12/68.
Two dealer replacement wheels for those wiped out by wife on a curb, date codes not relevant.

I suspect my car's assembly was done soon after 11/12/68. From Hamtramck it arrived at the Houston dealer on 11/27/68.

My theory is the wheels (standard black painted wheels) were typically fabricated and date coded JIT (just in time) pretty close to the actual assembly date, and if you can get the date codes off your original black wheels, that should be just days before assembly.

Anyone have knowledge or agree or disagree about this?

Photo is the original factory-mounted wsw Firestone Wide Oval spare.

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Scheduled Production Date on fender tag - B08, 11/8/68 Friday
One original wheel, date coded 11/11/68 Monday
Two original wheels, date coded 11/12/68 Tuesday

It works well for your Charger, but you knew the cars history, did the work and figured it out. Being the only b-body in the plant & all Chargers are 14x5.5" (except HEMI), I'm sure that inventory shuffle was simpler than St. Louis that had 14x5.0" also in the mix. Wheels are all over the place - the black STANDARD steel wheel dates on the a-body line on that same Tuesday might have been from last week.

Do you have your k-frame & engine assembly dates?

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Scheduled Production Date on fender tag - B08, 11/8/68 Friday
One original wheel, date coded 11/11/68 Monday
Two original wheels, date coded 11/12/68 Tuesday

It works well for your Charger, but you knew the cars history, did the work and figured it out. Being the only b-body in the plant & all Chargers are 14x5.5" (except HEMI), I'm sure that inventory shuffle was simpler than St. Louis that had 14x5.0" also in the mix. Wheels are all over the place - the black STANDARD steel wheel dates on the a-body line on that same Tuesday might have been from last week.

Do you have your k-frame & engine assembly dates?




This car with the standard black wheels is a Hamtramck Barracuda 340-S. The wheels are 14 x 5.5 with the A body small bolt circle. K frame was dated 11/4/68, and the engine build was 11/1/68.


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