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2012 Engine masters #1315307 10/04/12 09:58 PM 10/04/12 09:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,129 Vermont T TrWaters OP top fuel
TrWaters OP top fuel T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,129 Vermont	http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/ big hp numbers today from the heavy hitters.

Re: 2012 Engine masters [Re: TrWaters] #1315308 10/04/12 11:01 PM 10/04/12 11:01 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND fishy340 master
fishy340 master Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND	Damn college kids made 865 hp w a 402ci sb2......and bes only managed 1007 out of a 465ci sb also sb2 w a tunnel ram.

Re: 2012 Engine masters [Re: fishy340] #1315309 10/05/12 02:05 AM 10/05/12 02:05 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 506 Texas Afghanistan Iraq etc. D DakFink mopar
DakFink mopar D Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 506 Texas Afghanistan Iraq etc.	Looking good once again. Mopar still hurting in this competition though?!?! Even though I did see some good numbers from an under-dog combo. No one seems to want to pony up and bring the BIG GUNS from the MOPAR camp to the competition.

Re: 2012 Engine masters [Re: fishy340] #1315310 10/05/12 05:14 PM 10/05/12 05:14 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,101 cincinnati ohio M mcat4321 master
mcat4321 master M Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,101 cincinnati ohio	Quote: Damn college kids made 865 hp w a 402ci sb2......and bes only managed 1007 out of a 465ci sb also sb2 w a tunnel ram. first...peak numbers mean little in the comp. two ... max rpm was 8k 3.... BES had a major component failure on tuesday during testing, they had it fixed and in Lima on wednesday with a very conservative tune by a very weary crew. the DNF in final... didnt want to hurt more parts... get your facts, before you post..... and also BES ENGINES FINISHED 1 and 3 in the street category AND it was NOT an SB2 HEAD Last edited by mcat4321; 10/05/12 05:15 PM.

Re: 2012 Engine masters [Re: mcat4321] #1315311 10/05/12 05:32 PM 10/05/12 05:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,129 Vermont T TrWaters OP top fuel
TrWaters OP top fuel T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,129 Vermont	I believe that the Chrysler early hemi finished 2nd in the street division.

Re: 2012 Engine masters [Re: mcat4321] #1315312 10/05/12 09:23 PM 10/05/12 09:23 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND fishy340 master
fishy340 master Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND	Sorry i wasnt there i saw it on yb like your post said to the word.Second how did ur engine make out?

Re: 2012 Engine masters [Re: mcat4321] #1315313 10/05/12 09:34 PM 10/05/12 09:34 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND fishy340 master
fishy340 master Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND	What kind of head is it.....profiler? Sbx? Post 64 said sb2 and the valve covers look like em also.

Re: 2012 Engine masters [Re: fishy340] #1315314 10/05/12 09:52 PM 10/05/12 09:52 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,051 The Great White North RAMM super stock
RAMM super stock Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,051 The Great White North	The heads were some kind of Profiler Airstrikes on the BES entry--It was wild. Does anyone know what kind of component failure happened prior to the event to the BES team? J.Rob 2009 PHR\EMC Competitor 2010 PHR\EMC Competitor 2011 PHR\EMC Competitor 2012 PHR\EMC Competitor 2013 PHR\EMC Competitor 2014 HotRod/EMC Competitor 2015 HotRod/EMC NoShow 2016 HotRod/EMC 3rd place SPEC Bigblock 2018 HotRod/EMC 7th place G3

Re: 2012 Engine masters [Re: RAMM] #1315315 10/05/12 10:01 PM 10/05/12 10:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,784 PA W5DART66 top fuel
W5DART66 top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,784 PA	Broke the crank Monday had it to the show Wednesday

Re: 2012 Engine masters [Re: RAMM] #1315316 10/05/12 11:03 PM 10/05/12 11:03 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada M MattW master
MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	Quote: The heads were some kind of Profiler Airstrikes on the BES entry--It was wild. Does anyone know what kind of component failure happened prior to the event to the BES team? J.Rob Jesse once again you have shown that your dyno # at the shop are correct. Hope you had fun. Matt

Re: 2012 Engine masters [Re: MattW] #1315317 10/05/12 11:35 PM 10/05/12 11:35 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,051 The Great White North RAMM super stock
RAMM super stock Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,051 The Great White North	Quote: Quote: The heads were some kind of Profiler Airstrikes on the BES entry--It was wild. Does anyone know what kind of component failure happened prior to the event to the BES team? J.Rob Jesse once again you have shown that your dyno # at the shop are correct. Hope you had fun. Matt Thanks Matt, Our entry would have scored like shat no matter what. However had the handheld control been able to communicate with the ECU--the numbers would have been much better. To be honest I figured we would have finished far worse. Can't wait for next year-Mopar WILL be proud (aside from Dan Miller's 385 Hemi that placed second this year). p.s. Matt-We should think about two entries for next year. J.Rob 2009 PHR\EMC Competitor 2010 PHR\EMC Competitor 2011 PHR\EMC Competitor 2012 PHR\EMC Competitor 2013 PHR\EMC Competitor 2014 HotRod/EMC Competitor 2015 HotRod/EMC NoShow 2016 HotRod/EMC 3rd place SPEC Bigblock 2018 HotRod/EMC 7th place G3

Re: 2012 Engine masters [Re: RAMM] #1315318 10/06/12 02:10 PM 10/06/12 02:10 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada M MattW master
MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	Quote: Quote: Quote: The heads were some kind of Profiler Airstrikes on the BES entry--It was wild. Does anyone know what kind of component failure happened prior to the event to the BES team? J.Rob Jesse once again you have shown that your dyno # at the shop are correct. Hope you had fun. Matt Thanks Matt, Our entry would have scored like shat no matter what. However had the handheld control been able to communicate with the ECU--the numbers would have been much better. To be honest I figured we would have finished far worse. Can't wait for next year-Mopar WILL be proud (aside from Dan Miller's 385 Hemi that placed second this year). p.s. Matt-We should think about two entries for next year. J.Rob Yup will be at your shop soon. Playing pissing match with the gov. Would of been building something right now but can't justify it. I'm in let me know what u have in mind. Matt

Re: 2012 Engine masters [Re: RAMM] #1315319 10/08/12 12:10 PM 10/08/12 12:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 3 Omaha, NE D dieselgeek member
dieselgeek member D Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 3 Omaha, NE	Quote: Can't wait for next year-Mopar WILL be proud (aside from Dan Miller's 385 Hemi that placed second this year). p.s. Matt-We should think about two entries for next year. J.Rob Why wouldn't Mopar be happy this year? First and second place in the traditional EMC class (Street) isn't a bad finish. I'm trying to convince the Bartons to bring one of their engines to Extreme, but EMC is scheduled right on top of a few major racing events that a lot of these guys cannot miss.

Re: 2012 Engine masters [Re: dieselgeek] #1315320 10/08/12 02:01 PM 10/08/12 02:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,051 The Great White North RAMM super stock
RAMM super stock Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,051 The Great White North	Quote: Quote: Can't wait for next year-Mopar WILL be proud (aside from Dan Miller's 385 Hemi that placed second this year). p.s. Matt-We should think about two entries for next year. J.Rob Why wouldn't Mopar be happy this year? First and second place in the traditional EMC class (Street) isn't a bad finish. I'm trying to convince the Bartons to bring one of their engines to Extreme, but EMC is scheduled right on top of a few major racing events that a lot of these guys cannot miss. No that is what I'm saying Scott -that Mopar finished 1-2. Maybe next year 1-2-3 is what I'm hinting at. J.Rob 2009 PHR\EMC Competitor 2010 PHR\EMC Competitor 2011 PHR\EMC Competitor 2012 PHR\EMC Competitor 2013 PHR\EMC Competitor 2014 HotRod/EMC Competitor 2015 HotRod/EMC NoShow 2016 HotRod/EMC 3rd place SPEC Bigblock 2018 HotRod/EMC 7th place G3

Re: 2012 Engine masters [Re: RAMM] #1315321 10/08/12 08:31 PM 10/08/12 08:31 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada M MattW master
MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	So I see that BES 2011 Engine Master Challenge Hemi was thrown into the mix again. IIRC It was 25 hp less and 6lbs of tq more than last year. Did they have to change anything from last year? Matt

Re: 2012 Engine masters [Re: MattW] #1315322 10/08/12 08:41 PM 10/08/12 08:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,784 PA W5DART66 top fuel
W5DART66 top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,784 PA	Yes one point lower CR. Belt driven water pump. No lift rule but they did not take advantage of as it would have taken custom cam core. I think rpm changed was 2500-6500 this year again. (think it was 3000-7000 last time they ran the hemi ) I may have missed something but that's the big ones.

Re: 2012 Engine masters [Re: W5DART66] #1315323 10/09/12 01:50 PM 10/09/12 01:50 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada M MattW master
MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	Quote: Yes one point lower CR. Belt driven water pump. No lift rule but they did not take advantage of as it would have taken custom cam core. I think rpm changed was 2500-6500 this year again. (think it was 3000-7000 last time they ran the hemi ) I may have missed something but that's the big ones. THANKS That thing is still making some steam.

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