Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball
[Re: HemiDart68]
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09/25/12 03:30 PM
09/25/12 03:30 PM
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Well if it helps any the Mopars at the Strip race suffers from numerous oil downs most years as well. IN fact I do not attend an event that has MORE issues with this type of thing than it does. The weather also has played a big role the last two years as well.It is just a fact of racing here in the early spring. Just like racing here in the fall. Contrary to what many people think it does get to cold and windy to race here for a large part of the year.
I also agree if you stand your car on the bumper and come down hard pull over..Save all the other racers at the facility from enduring anymore pain than necessary and excercise some common courtesy to your fellow racers and PULL OVER. I never understand why people DONT do this. As for the diaper question, well from my experience it tends to be the slower cars that cause the issues. Still a problem in NHRA as well with stock and SS cars oiling down the track, then again the rest of us HAVE to have one. Even S/ST is required to run a diaper or containment device.
One last tidbit. Let me see if I can get this straight. The complaint here is that a FREE race was not able to finish?!? I dont understand why ANYONE would complain about not getting in a FREE race. What did you loose by not being able to complete a race you did not pay to enter? Im confused. I get that you are dissapointed that you were unable to complete it but, what financial stake did you have? COME ON MAN!!
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."
"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball
[Re: bigtimeauto]
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09/25/12 03:58 PM
09/25/12 03:58 PM
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I think i read the first round winners even got paid
They did. And got a free dinner to boot.
In between rounds I talked to a ton of people, walked the pits and the swap area, rode our minibike with my husband and I crammed on the tiny seat much to the entertainment of bystanders, and I even ran the autocross. There was plenty to do.
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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball
[Re: sam64]
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09/25/12 05:48 PM
09/25/12 05:48 PM
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MONSTER MOPAR WEEKEND started as MONSTER MOPAR SUNDAY. When it became MONSTER MOPAR WEEKEND the entry fee went up and we raced for money both days. The entry fee for Pro and S/Pro was $110 with the old promoter and was for $2000 to win on Sat. and $4000 on Sunday. In fact I was racing at MONSTER MOPAR when this promoter was probably just out of diapers. Now, $125 for $3000 to win on Sunday is not a fair entry. The promoters flyer noted, now Sat. race was now included in entry fee of $125., Made us pay extra $50 last 2 events. At that point we are racing for 2 chances at winning a possible $4500 for our $125 entry. A much more reasonable payout to entry fee ratio. Now your car count goes up, and the gate take goes up. I am tired of hearing this s*it about a free race getting canceled. Sat. race was included in entry fee, NOT FREE!!!!!
Now lets go back and look at how Monster MOPAR started. 2 classes. Super Pro---Pro and some exibition cars Then Street got added, then NSS got added, then now several more. I don't have a problem with all of the classes because Pro and S/Pro is not everyones cup of tea. We all came for the class or classes of or choice and paid our entry fee. The promoter had a run order and shuffled it up and should not have. And if something gets eliminated why jip the class you make the most $$$$ off of.
All of the people that bought a tech card had race cars, even if some not so racy, including box and no-box, and should have all been considered equal, and run order followed until the race track was un-safe. Not cancel some and continue to race others. And yes, we did get paid for Sat. and because it was only 1 round completed pay was minimal, while others got to finish, even one class Sun. Morning. The race should of continued in the order that was posted, then when stopped for weather or time reasons all purses split at that time.
And I know how late we raced on Sunday because only one more pair went down the track after me and then it was off to the winners circle.
And back to the original subject. There are probably not parts avail. to make a MOPAR as competitive as Ford in 10.5. There probably would'nt be in a Ford if not for Glidden as they have helped to get Ford where it is today. When Bob Glidden did run MOPAR, for 1 year, he was very successful, and I believe if Glidden would switch to MOPAR, with there Knowledge, expertise and resources, they could do as well or maybe better.
And on bashing all the guys that oiled down, I am sure if they knew they were spilling there guts they would have stopped. Sometimes you just don't know your car is leaking.
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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball
[Re: qwkmopardan]
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09/25/12 06:32 PM
09/25/12 06:32 PM
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I wasn't there but heard some about the weekend. Weren't most of the cars that did the oil downs the "faster cars"? Seems that's your most experienced racers. Also if you are leaking oil like a stuck pig wouldn't it become obvious before you went a quarter mile if it happened at the starting line Like I said I wasn't there, but maybe this a learning opportunity for everyone...promoter included Hey what do I know just a fan as of now...carry on
What was I thinking....
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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball
[Re: qwkmopardan]
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09/25/12 06:36 PM
09/25/12 06:36 PM
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I don't know where you race at,but up here in N.W.INDIANA it cost me 65.00 to race for 1,000.00. The last 10.0 race I won 200.00 and it cost me 75.00 to enter,so for me 125.00 to win 3000.00 seems pretty good. I personally think that Josh and his crew did a great job and we will be at the next event he puts on.
Last edited by MoparPitBull; 09/25/12 06:38 PM.
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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball
[Re: qwkmopardan]
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09/25/12 08:44 PM
09/25/12 08:44 PM
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As a matter of fact I did not go for the free food as I thought as soon as I walked up to the PARTY area for food they would make the call for no-box to the lanes. Once the box/no-Box race was canceled the food was gone.
Ummm..... A quadriplegic could have rolled from where the food was served to the staging lanes in about 30 seconds. Free food, free race......quitcherbichin
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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball
[Re: Pleaz]
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09/25/12 08:46 PM
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I just wanna say congrats too qwkmopardan for winning superpro sunday, and getting down too 4 cars in pro sunday. You will never meet a more die hard racer, or mopar guy than Dan Smith....congrats bro.
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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball
[Re: EvilB1Dart]
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09/25/12 08:48 PM
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All this bitchin' and whinning, and for what? The man took time out of his personal life to give you guys something. Just be glad some MOPAR dude (Josh) gave you a new venue/place to meet old/new friends, bench race and a place to race if you brought a car. There is no such thing as a perfect event/race, especially when bad weather falls upon you, etc. Don't you think your positions or opinions would be better accepted/applied if you just simply PM'd or emailed Josh and gave him your constructive thoughts? Remember, before Josh you didn't have this event.......just let it go and look forward to NEXT YEAR! Wes
"If you can still hear your fears - shift a gear."
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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball
[Re: EvilB1Dart]
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09/25/12 08:52 PM
09/25/12 08:52 PM
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Probably the reason why just about every legal SS hemi car does not have a diaper.
Hey Matt how's it going man? I notice a lot of the HEMI cars have changed how their collectors are positioned under the car. Are belly pans the reason for that?
Wes
Hey Wes all is well man, good to hear from you. I noticed as well that the collectors are now directed more out the side as opposed to straight back. That is part of the problem i have also with the current big tube under chassis headers and the way it wraps around the factory suspension leave little room for making diapers work. I will check into the headers and see if that is the reason they are doing that. Thanks.
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Re: Billy Glidden at the MMW fall ball
[Re: qwkmopardan]
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09/25/12 08:55 PM
09/25/12 08:55 PM
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Why??????????? So he could poke the whole Mopar crowd in the eye and make the fastest pass of the weekend????? He all-most succeeded if that was his goal. 4.01 at 185mph 1/8th mile in an adrl 10.5 tire car. 2nd only to the Lake Erie Monster dragster that went 3.79 at 186 mph. I remember when his dad ran a Plymouth Arrow in pro stock and was allmost unbeatable with a Motor that by todays standards was just a mild bracket motor. If Billy G. would use his knowledge and resources and apply it to a Mopar he might have been able to make the fastest pass of the weekend.
Don't think you would have a problem with BobR's Ford (With a HEMI in it) Only 3 runs on this combo at the time.. 4.25 @ 180mph On a 10.5 tire..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3idbdZtFVw0
Chris..
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