wiring an anti theft shutoff relay
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09/19/12 11:51 PM
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Ricky1973
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I am installing a anti theft starter shutoff relay in my 73 challenger. This relay breaks the ignition lead from the steering column to the starter relay. 1 wire to starter side, 1 wire to ignition switch side, 1 wire to ground, and 1 wire to negative side of an on/off switch. I have a rear defog switch and planned to use it for the on/off switch, only problem is that I don't have a wire connection in the new harness, my thoughts were to run 1 wire from the switch to ground and 1 wire to the relay that called for a negative lead. Will this work? This relay will activate when the ignition is turned off and will not put power back to the starter solenoid until you turn the switch back on, once the engine is started you can turn the switch back to the off position.
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Re: wiring an anti theft shutoff relay
[Re: Ricky1973]
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09/20/12 10:12 PM
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OK here is my take. If I were gonna steal an old Mopar I would run a jumper from the battery to the ballast, then crank with a screwdriver on the starter relay. Switches that break circuits will have no effect. My opinion is to slip into the wiring harness and tap a ground wire into the coil/ECU wiring. Something you can't see because it's taped up real good and use your relay or switch to ground that wire. A dead short will stop it cold and nothing short of some creative handywork by somebody who knows what they are doing will get around it quickly. I suggest you put a resister in the short circuit to prevent a toasted wire. Most thieves want quick and easy or they don't want it at all. One creative idea used by one guy was to turn the cigarette lighter into a switch. Nobody would think of that one. My
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Re: wiring an anti theft shutoff relay
[Re: BulletBob]
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09/20/12 11:36 PM
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You can use the switch & with the horn going off they jump & run the time for creativeness gets really short My same wiring can be used with relays without dead shorting anything Most of the cars & trucks I wire like this are for people who live in the hood or just outside it & the success rate is really good & catching the creeps rate is good too one guy managed to shoot one with birdshot in the backside
do you have a diagram of how to do this? seems like a great idea!
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Re: wiring an anti theft shutoff relay
[Re: IMGTX]
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09/21/12 01:29 AM
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Secret Chimp
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An awesome trick is to use a magnetic reed switch to trigger a relay: http://autospeed.com.au/cms/article.html?&A=107975This system allows a lot of creativity in placement and if you do your wiring right, it's impossible to detect for all but the most dedicated thief! On newer cars that have more complicated dashboards it's even easier to hide everything.
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Re: wiring an anti theft shutoff relay
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09/21/12 08:07 AM
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I think you'll be ahead if you look for places to hide a lo-jack GPS sensor. As said, a REAL car thief will have an enclosed trailer and a winch.
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Re: wiring an anti theft shutoff relay
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09/21/12 07:10 PM
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I think you'll be ahead if you look for places to hide a lo-jack GPS sensor. As said, a REAL car thief will have an enclosed trailer and a winch.
Something like a lo-jack or similar with its own backup battery would be a good idea. A real alarm system wouldn't hurt either. Depends if this is your prized muscle car for a $1000 beater.
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Re: wiring an anti theft shutoff relay
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09/21/12 08:47 PM
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Did that on my 69 GM 3/4T work truck. Put in an electric fuel tank selector valve, and capped off on side. When power hit the switch, the valve was open, no power, no fuel. Small LED under the dash for power on, switched by an extra dimmer switch on the floor above the stock one. I could leave the pub, and make it two blocks before stalling. Seemed simple at the time. The lighter thing came about in my 64 Ford work truck that I installed a 6 cyl in-dash tach in.. Pondering on it one day, and spliced a wire from the tach feed to the lighter, worked great. This all came about after my 74 Barracuda was stolen.
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