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Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: Triple Threat] #1306212
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Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: Triple Threat] #1306213
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Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: Triple Threat] #1306214
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I think I would contact Manley on that for them to do a failure analysis on that valve


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Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: Triple Threat] #1306215
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Looking at the stem you can see very clear indications of crack propagation followed by ductile failure. There may have been a surface defect on the one side that caused it to crack, maybe from machining, etc..

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: Kevins493] #1306216
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Seriously, I hate it for ya'. Put out the call for parts if you need some help.

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: ProStock1320] #1306217
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WOW.... So sorry to see this post, Dustin! That sucks! not much more to say.

My first thought: go big block. Build a low-deck 451 or 470. You'll go just as fast, and it'll be more durable. But I also realize you probably have a lot of small block stuff left over that would cut the cost of a new motor...... tough call.

Where's the old 408 these days???


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Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: StealthWedge67] #1306218
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My first thought: go big block.

Where's the old 408 these days???




My thought as well, but I have ZERO big block stuff.

The old engine was a nothing special 340, cast piston, stock rod, stock crank. Its got well over 1000 passes on it and 5 years of abuse. I robbed the heads and other parts out of it to build this engine, so its not ready to go at all. I think its racing days are over, still runs great, but needs to go in a cruiser, not my car..... apparently i'm hard on stuff.


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Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: Triple Threat] #1306219
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Really sorry to see it, what a mess!!

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: sshemi] #1306220
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That really sucks!! Very sorry to see this.
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Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: Brian Hafliger] #1306221
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Is that a solid cam, Sorry Im caching on this late, really sucks for ya.

Was there any signs of valve float?


Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: Moparnut426] #1306222
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Yep solid cam, 263/268@.050 .... Now its a "3/4 race" cam

No signs of float really, when it got hotter in the summer It would occasionally miss slightly in high gear, that went away as the air got better again.

I'll check that spring for pressure when I get a chance. Not really in the mood to touch it the last couple days.


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Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: Triple Threat] #1306223
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I do believe you've got a good shot at winning the winter carnage thread contest.


Yeah, it's got a smallblock.
Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: 340B5] #1306224
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I do believe you've got a good shot at winning the winter carnage thread contest.




For the sake of everyone else here, I sincerely hope I do.

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: Triple Threat] #1306225
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Seems like it might have been old damage (the small crack) from an older mishap (over reved it maybe caught a piston and tweeked it a bit causing the crack a while ago?) and then it finally let go.


Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: Kevins493] #1306226
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Looking at the stem you can see very clear indications of crack propagation followed by ductile failure. There may have been a surface defect on the one side that caused it to crack, maybe from machining, etc..


I think this illustrates what you are saying.

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: Triple Threat] #1306227
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I do believe you've got a good shot at winning the winter carnage thread contest.




For the sake of everyone else here, I sincerely hope I do.




Definately sukz. The worst I've ever seen, and I've seen a few.


Yeah, it's got a smallblock.
Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: Triple Threat] #1306228
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Too bad you weren't closer. I would work a deal with you on my W2 408 motor. It would be up to the task of 200 passes a year. Just pulled it because the hemi is done. I put about 8 passes on it as it was just built...

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Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: Dragula] #1306229
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Man, that sucks, I know how you feel, on my last car, I had a rod break in the lights, and it looked almost that bad!


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Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: 440Jim] #1306230
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Looking at the stem you can see very clear indications of crack propagation followed by ductile failure. There may have been a surface defect on the one side that caused it to crack, maybe from machining, etc..


I think this illustrates what you are saying.



Thanks Jim! that does a much better job than my explanation.

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: 70Dart499] #1306231
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Its good to see you still have some humor,.... 3/4 cam .....

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