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Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: donscuda] #1306192
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Sorry to see that...Glad you and the car are ok...That could have been a lot worse!!


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Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: tboomer] #1306193
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That really sucks, so glad to hear the car and driver are ok, that is the most important thing.


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Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: ZIPPY] #1306194
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Our lil 9 sec small block met the same demise back in February and the car is still not running. We considered some other options, but are going back to our old iron head low 11 sec 360. At least it will get us back out there to have some fun. Sucks!!

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: J_BODY] #1306195
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Sorry about the carnage.

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: Triple Threat] #1306196
09/19/12 11:57 AM
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So sorry to see...1.6 rockers put a lot more stress on the valve train on a old LA motor, imo.

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: Challenger 1] #1306197
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Just a suggestion Build a junk yard engine clean it up new bearings rings etc. Keep the majority of engine stock add a bottle of Nitrous and go fast if it goes boom who cares. You would be surprised what a stock chrysler small block can take with N2O. And it won't cost thousands

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: justinp61] #1306198
09/19/12 02:03 PM
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My guess is the head came off the valve.




Not the first time I've seen a Manley valve looking like that.

Sorry to see that Dustin.

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: Paul_Fancsali] #1306199
09/19/12 02:43 PM
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Just a suggestion Build a junk yard engine clean it up new bearings rings etc. Keep the majority of engine stock add a bottle of Nitrous and go fast if it goes boom who cares. You would be surprised what a stock chrysler small block can take with N2O. And it won't cost thousands




I wish I could. I make roughly 250 passes in a year. So I need something more reliable than a junk yard motor.

I'm currently pricing out replacements


-Dustin
67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi
68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: Triple Threat] #1306200
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Just a suggestion Build a junk yard engine clean it up new bearings rings etc. Keep the majority of engine stock add a bottle of Nitrous and go fast if it goes boom who cares. You would be surprised what a stock chrysler small block can take with N2O. And it won't cost thousands




I wish I could. I make roughly 250 passes in a year. So I need something more reliable than a junk yard motor.

I'm currently pricing out replacements


I am sure there will be a little sticker shock involved.


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Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: Triple Threat] #1306201
09/19/12 03:10 PM
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I wish I could. I make roughly 250 passes in a year. So I need something more reliable than a junk yard motor.

I'm currently pricing out replacements




250 passes, HOLY CRAP! How many races do you run a year?


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Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: FlyFish] #1306202
09/19/12 04:13 PM
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Sorry to see that. Man thats UGLY. What kind of rpm were you turning?


I just used Manley intakes on my new engine


Yeah, it's got a smallblock.
Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: 340B5] #1306203
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What kind of rpm were you turning?




Shift light comes on at 6600, engine never saw more than 7200 EVER.

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250 passes, HOLY CRAP! How many races do you run a year?




Usually 1-2 days a week from April-October. Usually will double enter when its allowed. I made 12 passes alone on Saturday when it let go. All fluid temps were fine, 130* water temp, 150* trans. Pretty common for the hardcore bracket racers out there to make that many runs in a season. I've made 45 passes in 4 days before, more than lots of people make in a year.

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: Triple Threat] #1306204
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Just a suggestion Build a junk yard engine clean it up new bearings rings etc. Keep the majority of engine stock add a bottle of Nitrous and go fast if it goes boom who cares. You would be surprised what a stock chrysler small block can take with N2O. And it won't cost thousands




I wish I could. I make roughly 250 passes in a year. So I need something more reliable than a junk yard motor.

I'm currently pricing out replacements





Have you given any thought to going boosted? My motor is a junkyard special,(although I should have atleast rebuilt it), and hasn't given me any major problems other than the stock 35yr old head gasket pushing out after a year of bad tunes and high boost. If I had it to do over still on my budget I would have waited alittle longer and bought forged pistons and a good cam. I priced out building a 450-500hp smallblock N/A then priced the same hp boosted and it was no contest. Not to mention you get good streetablilty off boost and can run a very conservative gear. I have battled transmission problems the whole time my turbo setup has been on the car but I think once I get the right converter and maybe a trans brake I should be in the 7.20-7.30 range in the 1/8th for under $3000 total investment

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: SLOW67] #1306205
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Have you given any thought to going boosted?




More than once yes. My brother Topfueldart has a turbocharged 318 dart, works pretty well, but it isn't the best bracket car.


-Dustin
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68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: Triple Threat] #1306206
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Just a suggestion Build a junk yard engine clean it up new bearings rings etc. Keep the majority of engine stock add a bottle of Nitrous and go fast if it goes boom who cares. You would be surprised what a stock chrysler small block can take with N2O. And it won't cost thousands




I wish I could. I make roughly 250 passes in a year. So I need something more reliable than a junk yard motor.

I'm currently pricing out replacements




Has anybody thought of block deflection? Could this have cause this damage? Matt

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: MattW] #1306207
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Damn Dustin, thats some bad luck, yep that will hurt the pocket book, hate to see that happen, but you can allways bank on winning some cash at Boise and Vegas later this year, or build like you will, heck there is a good chance you will.

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: wyoming] #1306208
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man that sucks.... But we run Manley valves ....

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! [Re: emarine01] #1306209
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Don't worry guys, I had a Ferrea fail in a similar manner.

Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: Triple Threat] #1306210
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Still haven't resumed disassembly, but snapped a few pictures of the valve

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Re: New Worst! Kaboom! UPDATE Added pictures of Valve [Re: Triple Threat] #1306211
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