Can any one tell me what the difference between the e body space saver spares? Some have an extra, small 6th hole in the rim that as I under stand are correct for 70-71. Is that correct? Then there are others with just the 5 lug holes for Mopar e bodies, what are they correct for? Can they be at all correct for a 70-71? Thanks!

This is the correct wheel and tire out of my T/A.
04/06/70, Hamtramck plant.

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....last one...

Thanks again appreciate it.

The last picture posted shows a K2 with a 9 under it. That is the year date code for the rim. 9 is for 1969. All the REAL space saver rims have that stamping with either a 9(1969),0(1970), or 1(1971). The K is for Kelsey Hayes, the OEM of the rims. All rims are 14". Kelsey Hayes also made 15" rims that also have the sixth hole, they were for C Body cars, they are not for spacer savers. Sometime in Jan or Feb. of 1971 the rims were changed to five hole, they were still made by Kelsey Hayes. There are date codes stamped on either side of the valve stem hole on these rims as well. The number(s) to the left of the hole are for the month code. The number(s) to the right of the hole are for the day code. If you are looking for a space saver to mate up to your car you need to find a rim dated sometime previous to the SPD of your car. Troy, can you post some pics. showing the date code of your rim? I can post some tonight if you want. Early space saver tires were 7.75x14 B.F. Goodrich, they were changed to F78x14 somtime in September of 1969. They were used on cars with both 14" or 15" equipped cars in 1970. At the end of the 1970 production year and into 1971 they also used 7.35x14 tires along with E78x14 tires. These were for cars equipped with 14" rims and tires. The rims were still the same Kelsey Hayes ones in all cases. NONE of these rims ever had a seven digit part number stamped above the valve stem hole. Did I miss anything?

That pretty much sums it up Dwight.
Also, on the right side of the valve stem is 5.5 as seen in this picture denoting 5.5 rim.
E-body spacesavers also had the white cap as shown. (Looks taller than it actually is from that angle).

6 Hole - K2 = Kelsey Hayes Canada
5 Hole - K1 = Kelsey Hayes USA
B.F. Goodrich tires not Goodyear.

Here is a picture of a 6 hole spacer saver with the additional warning decal and the air filler valve stem/safety relief valve.

Closeup of warning decal.

71 5 Hole

71 5 hole Plant and Date codes.
K1 = Kelsey Hayes USA
25 Feb 71

Snoopy: I have several five hole K.H. 14" rims which are dated into the 1972 production year(Aug and Nov. of 1971). Do you know what they would have been used on? The space saver pictures you just posted with the yellow warning label, what did that tire come out of? I have never seen a rim with the yellow label and the different valve stem. Do you have any history on this tire? Thanks for the pics.!

I was told that when Chrysler changed to the larger red air bottle they found out that it was possible to over inflate the space saver tires. So they came out with a valve stem that was equipped with a built in pressure relief valve and added the second warning label.
I don't know which car it came out of, I can't find my notes relating to it.

Here is another picture of a different 6 Hole with warning label and safety valve. The white label is missing, but you can see where it was placed.

Closeup of valve stem/pressure relief valve.
23 Oct 69

Were the space savers an option in 72?

Does anyone have a Technical Service Bulletin that refers to the valve stem change?
This may have been a retrofit that the dealer performed, rather than factory installed.

FORDS AND 69-70 AMCS HAD THE SPECIAL VALVE FROM FACTORY.

That may be true, but it doesn't mean that Chrysler didn't have its dealers install the valve and decal when they serviced one of these spares.
Have you seen any Fords or AMC's that used the small inflator bottle like the original E-Body bottle?
The reason I question it being an original, delivered on a new car, part concerns the date codes on the wheels and the rarity of this configuration.

I've owned my '70 Cuda for over thirty years (3rd owner). I seem to remember receiving some sort of decal from BFG about 25 years ago that was supposed to be put on the wheel. Some kind of warning, or something. Seemed odd that they even knew who I was. Does this sound familiar to anyone? I'll have to dig around to see if I can find it.

I HAVE AT LEAST TO FROM A FRIENDS 70 BOSS STANG AND AMX.
I GOT TO DG EM OUT TO GET DATES.
CARS ARE LONG GONE-BOTH ROAD RACED AND WRECKED WATKINS GLENN

It's great to have so many knowlegeble (man I can't spell tonight) people here on moparts. Thanks guys!

Tav

I recently bought a 71 Javelin that has a MINT space saver (no rust/scratches/dryrot) setup, including the inflator. The wheel itself is orange. Tire is BFG, with white warning sticker. Should be same bolt pattern as Mopar 5 on 4.5. Does anyone know if this would be the same as a Mopar setup? Will likely be selling it. Guess I need to check by the valve stem for codes.

Impossible for it to be correct. The rim is completely different than a Mopar rim. Can't speak for the tire though. what is the tire size?

I had one of the AMC versions as well. Rim is wrong shape (has ribs in the bolt area). Tire is close, but not exact. I believe it's an E-78 and should be an F-78.
Correct herringbone pattern though.

What do you suppose the factory used on E-Body car equipped with 14" tires?
Everyone talks about the 7.75-14 and F78-14 spares, but what about the D70-14 space saver spares?

Snoopy: I have an original June 1970 dated 7.35x14 spare for my Aug 2, 1970 SPD 71 340 three speed Challenger. It is a 14x6.0 steel wheel car with full size wheel covers. Would the superceeded spare for a 7.35x14 be an E78x14, or??

Dwight-Yes a 735-14 is a E78-14

Jim/Snoopy: Have either of you, or anyone for that matter ever seen an original E78x14 space saver? Does anyone know how to read the date coding on a space saver tire?? I think that Byron Fettig from North Dakota who is co-author with Dave Wise of a Mopar reference book are both members on this site. Their website is: www.Moparrmotorconsulting.com On their website are various date coded tires and the solved date code associated with it. I can't figure out for the life of me how to determine the date code on the space saver shown on the site or any of the other pertinant 70 and 71 tires shown. Can ayone help me out??

I haven't seen an E78-14 SS, but I do have a D70-14 SS.

Can you post the imprinted code from your tire?

Snoop: I will post ALL the imprints from all my space saver tires tonight. I wonder what the D78x14 would have come on, a 225 convertible???

Here are all the tire codes that I have:
(1) 2031A400-2 It is a 7.75x14 tire on a July 1 '69 rim

(2) 7171A498-3 A 7.75x14 tire on a July 1 '69 rim

(3) 2003A499-2 A 7.75x14 tire with a Sept 17, '69 dated rim.

(4) 12082A405-5 An F78x14 tire on a Nov 14, '69 dated rim.

(5) 4515A498-2 A 7.75x14 tire on a July 1, '69 rim