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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: fishy340] #1296775
10/31/12 10:37 AM
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1.21 60 ft...you guys must know something I dont


-65 Valiant,420", all motor,2700#, dot tires, 8,42 @ 160,2
Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: W5DART66] #1296776
10/31/12 11:53 AM
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I couldn't hazard a guess. But I sure would like to know. My future plans are to build one of these engines with a 4" stroke. Would be nice to now what is working for others.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: mafo] #1296777
10/31/12 11:55 AM
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Great job guys

I think its making more than you think at that mph.that car must be working great and 60 in the low 20's..wow thats great..with the converter stalling low 5300 with a 4.57 gear?it must have a dinky camshaft in it.


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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: FASTFISH420] #1296778
10/31/12 12:23 PM
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Great job guys

I think its making more than you think at that mph.that car must be working great and 60 in the low 20's..wow thats great..with the converter stalling low 5300 with a 4.57 gear?it must have a dinky camshaft in it.




Chris, your thinking on the cam is on the right track. Converter actually goes 5800 though.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: W5DART66] #1296779
10/31/12 05:38 PM
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Your car will definitely fly Jeff. It'll be interesting to see the difference of 30 cubes and that big 420 intake Brett did for you. Brian's car is damn impressive for 416 ci.




I did not do intake for Jeff's car it will be Vic Bloomer doing that and he is doing chamber and exhaust port finishing.

I did have my large CNC intake port put in the heads and Dennis at AFD did the valve job.(I think we did valve job when heads were hear) correct me if I am wrong on that Jeff

Thanks again Brett Miller. OH CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS TO RUN JEFF!!!!!!!!!




My fault Brett, i thought the "big boy 420" intake you did was for Jeff's motor.

I'm gonna take a guess that the cam is in the mid 260's @ .050

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: W5DART66] #1296780
10/31/12 09:54 PM
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On side note any one want to guess the cam specs???



It's a 3/4 Race cam not a Full race cam!!!


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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: W5DART66] #1296781
10/31/12 10:39 PM
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Your car will definitely fly Jeff. It'll be interesting to see the difference of 30 cubes and that big 420 intake Brett did for you. Brian's car is damn impressive for 416 ci.




I did not do intake for Jeff's car it will be Vic Bloomer doing that and he is doing chamber and exhaust port finishing.

You are correct Brett.And yes you did the Valve job while you had the heads.Vic Bloomer is doing the rest of the build for me in trade for some chassis work We did on his car a cpl of years ago.This will be the first engine I have not done of my own but Vic is way sharper than I in that area.Bretts phone will be ringing more than just a few times befor this project is done. We are hoping when this thing is done I will have a good reason to buy sone 10.5 tires.

I did have my large CNC intake port put in the heads and Dennis at AFD did the valve job.(I think we did valve job when heads were hear) correct me if I am wrong on that Jeff

Thanks again Brett Miller. OH CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS TO RUN JEFF!!!!!!!!!



Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 340_Dart] #1296782
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Your car will definitely fly Jeff. It'll be interesting to see the difference of 30 cubes and that big 420 intake Brett did for you. Brian's car is damn impressive for 416 ci.




I did not do intake for Jeff's car it will be Vic Bloomer doing that and he is doing chamber and exhaust port finishing.

I did have my large CNC intake port put in the heads and Dennis at AFD did the valve job.(I think we did valve job when heads were hear) correct me if I am wrong on that Jeff

Thanks again Brett Miller. OH CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS TO RUN JEFF!!!!!!!!!




My fault Brett, i thought the "big boy 420" intake you did was for Jeff's motor.

I'm gonna take a guess that the cam is in the mid 260's @ .050




That's a good guess.

I still have this Chapman ported 598 intake that was butchered to accept a dominator. I might have to "fix" this for next year.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296783
11/01/12 11:28 AM
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What would that equate to in the 1/4, 8.50 ish?

Mighty impressive.


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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: B3422W5] #1296784
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Brian
What would that equate to in the 1/4, 8.50 ish?

Mighty impressive.




I'm guessing about an 8.70 ?

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: B3422W5] #1296785
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5.50x1.57=8.63

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: Otherlane] #1296786
11/01/12 05:18 PM
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I went 8.69 with a 5.57 and a 1.29 60 ft,
and that is after years of trying, you make it look easy


-65 Valiant,420", all motor,2700#, dot tires, 8,42 @ 160,2
Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296787
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Standard formula is:

1/8th mile ET x 1.57 = 1/4 mile ET

5.5*1.57 = 8.635

Maybe a little closer to Brian's guess depending on how the car runs in high gear, it really 60's well


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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296788
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Put a 1250 dominator let the puppy eat.a little more desert!

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: fishy340] #1296789
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Put a 1250 dominator let the puppy eat.a little more desert!




Funny thing is that Brett has already suggested that. I would like to make a change to the intake and carb over the winter.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296790
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What size carb do you have now? If pro systems build a carb it mostly likely would be a 1100

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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: Otherlane] #1296791
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What size carb do you have now? If pro systems build a carb it mostly likely would be a 1100




1050 Quickfuel Dominator, same one my dad ran on his 540 8 years ago.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296792
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What size carb do you have now? If pro systems build a carb it mostly likely would be a 1100




1050 Quickfuel Dominator, same one my dad ran on his 540 8 years ago.


I know this has nothing to do with accelerating a car, but we dynoed a 1.590 x 1.750 4150 on a 420 with a 2in spacer. Then we sent the 420 to Gabby who opened it up to dominator flange and we tried a 110mm blade SV-1 w/spacer.

We saw a 33hp increase. Obviously this huge increase was over a large 4150 and not a purpose built dominator.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296793
11/02/12 12:58 PM
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What size carb do you have now? If pro systems build a carb it mostly likely would be a 1100




1050 Quickfuel Dominator, same one my dad ran on his 540 8 years ago.




To bad you werent closer I would let you borrow mine its a 2.20 bore Dale Cubic Q16 carb.


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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: FASTFISH420] #1296794
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We did a back to back dyno with the quickfuel and pro systems carb and the pro systems was 10 or 15 hp better. We changed the jets on the pro systems and lose power. It had 90 jets from and back

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