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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet
[Re: 408strokerdart]
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10/30/12 01:35 PM
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Brian, I may have missed it in this post but did you dyno the engine?
from Wallace
Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 875.50 flywheel HP and 787.95 rear wheel HP.
Your HP computed from your vehicle MPH is 917.21 flywheel HP and 825.49 rear wheel HP.
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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet
[Re: sixpackgut]
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10/30/12 02:06 PM
10/30/12 02:06 PM
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Brian, I may have missed it in this post but did you dyno the engine?
from Wallace
Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 875.50 flywheel HP and 787.95 rear wheel HP.
Your HP computed from your vehicle MPH is 917.21 flywheel HP and 825.49 rear wheel HP.
No engine Dyno this time either. I know the math is what it is, but I might tend to believe the 875 number based on et much more than the mph based number. I was just hoping it would make 830 or so.
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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet
[Re: 408strokerdart]
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10/30/12 02:27 PM
10/30/12 02:27 PM
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Charleston
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Brian, I may have missed it in this post but did you dyno the engine?
from Wallace
Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 875.50 flywheel HP and 787.95 rear wheel HP.
Your HP computed from your vehicle MPH is 917.21 flywheel HP and 825.49 rear wheel HP.
No engine Dyno this time either. I know the math is what it is, but I might tend to believe the 875 number based on et much more than the mph based number. I was just hoping it would make 830 or so.
on my challenger and most other cars I check, the numbers are usually very close. on my cuda they are not but I had the timing turned way down for the 91 gas out your way. Maybe you have a bunch of ET left you can find yet. your mph is crazy
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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet
[Re: sixpackgut]
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10/30/12 02:40 PM
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Brian, I may have missed it in this post but did you dyno the engine?
from Wallace
Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 875.50 flywheel HP and 787.95 rear wheel HP.
Your HP computed from your vehicle MPH is 917.21 flywheel HP and 825.49 rear wheel HP.
No engine Dyno this time either. I know the math is what it is, but I might tend to believe the 875 number based on et much more than the mph based number. I was just hoping it would make 830 or so.
on my challenger and most other cars I check, the numbers are usually very close. on my cuda they are not but I had the timing turned way down for the 91 gas out your way. Maybe you have a bunch of ET left you can find yet. your mph is crazy
I am believe the converter is not "perfect" as is and the fuel curve is not "perfect" yet, but pretty close. Still have some left in the suspension. Haven't really played with cam timing yet, haven't played with ignition timing yet. Wish I had a different set of headers to try out and the car isn't geared anywhere near where it should be for 1/8th mile. I figure it could easily use a 5.50 gear and it has 4.57.
I doubt that I optimize it completely as it is doing everything I want it to do now and I don't have to turn it real hard. 
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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet
[Re: Ben Holt]
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10/30/12 03:49 PM
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Nice job, Brain. I'm waiting on that call about the Racepak info.... hahaha
I might have it figured out. 
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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet
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10/30/12 08:43 PM
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I am believe the converter is not "perfect" as is and the fuel curve is not "perfect" yet, but pretty close. Still have some left in the suspension. Haven't really played with cam timing yet, haven't played with ignition timing yet. Wish I had a different set of headers to try out and the car isn't geared anywhere near where it should be for 1/8th mile. I figure it could easily use a 5.50 gear and it has 4.57.
I doubt that I optimize it completely as it is doing everything I want it to do now and I don't have to turn it real hard.
What converter did you wind up with?? Sounds like you hit it right on..
Chris.. 
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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet
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10/30/12 10:14 PM
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I am believe the converter is not "perfect" as is and the fuel curve is not "perfect" yet, but pretty close. Still have some left in the suspension. Haven't really played with cam timing yet, haven't played with ignition timing yet. Wish I had a different set of headers to try out and the car isn't geared anywhere near where it should be for 1/8th mile. I figure it could easily use a 5.50 gear and it has 4.57.
I doubt that I optimize it completely as it is doing everything I want it to do now and I don't have to turn it real hard.
What converter did you wind up with?? Sounds like you hit it right on..
Chris..
It is the same ATI 8" that was in it before. I think it could use just a little more stall. It goes 5800 and I would like to see it about 200 to 250 higher.
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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet
[Re: 408strokerdart]
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10/30/12 10:55 PM
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Who says they need 500" to go 8's? I'm sure it is easier to do with a bigger engine.
Anyone looking to make big power from a W8/W9 at a great price needs to look at Brett Millers CNC port. I would love to see what a big version of this port would do on a 440" w9 engine.
I have alot of areas that are untapped that are holding hp. Some will be cheap, some won't be cheap. Plus my car will loose another 70+ lbs this winter that I didn't get around to removing last year. It's going to get quicker!
Brian you have know idea just how pumped you have me to get my Brett prepped W-8s on my 447cid and in my 2600# car and send it down the track.I so glad to see your running hard and well with your set up and no issues.Lets try and get both our SB car to the same event next year and do some BB hunting.Nice job to you both.
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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet
[Re: Hitman340]
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10/30/12 11:15 PM
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Who says they need 500" to go 8's? I'm sure it is easier to do with a bigger engine.
Anyone looking to make big power from a W8/W9 at a great price needs to look at Brett Millers CNC port. I would love to see what a big version of this port would do on a 440" w9 engine.
I have alot of areas that are untapped that are holding hp. Some will be cheap, some won't be cheap. Plus my car will loose another 70+ lbs this winter that I didn't get around to removing last year. It's going to get quicker!
Brian you have know idea just how pumped you have me to get my Brett prepped W-8s on my 447cid and in my 2600# car and send it down the track.I so glad to see your running hard and well with your set up and no issues.Lets try and get both our SB car to the same event next year and do some BB hunting.Nice job to you both.
Your heads are like jewelery compared to mine. I didn't know they were going on that many cid. Your car will fly. I am thinking about trying a new intake and bigger carb next year. I plan to do some traveling next year up that way so we might just get them together for that hunt.
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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet
[Re: 340_Dart]
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10/30/12 11:52 PM
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Your car will definitely fly Jeff. It'll be interesting to see the difference of 30 cubes and that big 420 intake Brett did for you. Brian's car is damn impressive for 416 ci.
I did not do intake for Jeff's car it will be Vic Bloomer doing that and he is doing chamber and exhaust port finishing.
I did have my large CNC intake port put in the heads and Dennis at AFD did the valve job.(I think we did valve job when heads were hear) correct me if I am wrong on that Jeff
Thanks again Brett Miller. OH CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS TO RUN JEFF!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet
[Re: 408strokerdart]
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10/31/12 08:16 AM
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Brian, I may have missed it in this post but did you dyno the engine?
from Wallace
Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 875.50 flywheel HP and 787.95 rear wheel HP.
Your HP computed from your vehicle MPH is 917.21 flywheel HP and 825.49 rear wheel HP.
We did extensive dyno testing on Precision Automotive's inertia dyno. Your engine is very similar to ours....and we saw 894hp @8200 with Coleman/Arrington 15* and a tick under 14-1 static. Since the enegine went in the car, we made a small change that should pick it up a few numbers.
As you chip away at the new combo, I have no doubt you'll see that ET shrink. 
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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet
[Re: jim sciortino]
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10/31/12 10:05 AM
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Brian, I may have missed it in this post but did you dyno the engine?
from Wallace
Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 875.50 flywheel HP and 787.95 rear wheel HP.
Your HP computed from your vehicle MPH is 917.21 flywheel HP and 825.49 rear wheel HP.
We did extensive dyno testing on Precision Automotive's inertia dyno. Your engine is very similar to ours....and we saw 894hp @8200 with Coleman/Arrington 15* and a tick under 14-1 static. Since the enegine went in the car, we made a small change that should pick it up a few numbers.
As you chip away at the new combo, I have no doubt you'll see that ET shrink.
I can't wait to see yours run Jim. I know you guys wore it out on the dyno finding power. I don't know why people think these are exotic engines...all the pieces are available to build a brand new healthy W9 engine. I would have liked to have Brett do a new pair of W9's for me. Probably a bit better performance and less compromises than we had to make on my heads and lose a few more lbs to boot.
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in Ohio just waiting for you, great job Brian, Dad is proud of you! Jeff pm me your address, I promised you something and I would like to keep my word! 