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Engine Stand Safety question #1295550
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I just picked this stand up hoping to be able to take this 360 apart to the short block and re-assemble. I will not be turning the engine, just cleaning and re-assembling the pan, heads, intake, etc. Has anyone used this style, and will I be safe? I just want to know if anyone has used this kind safely, not from people who haven't used it at all.

Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: cudabitten] #1295551
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They can be used safely though they can be very unstable and will tip easily if not used properly. The 4-wheel ones are much safer.

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Have used both, got rid of the three-wheeler.
had a fully loaded 440 on the three wheeler, VERY shaky.

It can be used IF you don't try to roll it. Don't turn the engine
without extra hands to steady it.

Be careful!!

Joe

Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: cudabitten] #1295553
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A 3 wheeler will work IF it is heavy duty enough & the one in the pic looks to be a lightweight. When you move it pull it from the front & best is to also have a helper on the rear pushing. Myself I'd get a better one


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Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: RapidRobert] #1295554
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I've had a three wheel version for years. It is somewhat unstable to any force applied perpendicular to the engine. Anything I torque I stand behind the stand and pull towards the head of the stand. Early on I made the mistake of pulling to the side and even with me holding it from turning, the stand almost went over. I've been looking for a good used four wheel version and once I find it, the three wheeler is history.


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Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: 6PakBee] #1295555
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If you HAVE to they will work. I dumped over the 318 that went into my car on one of them, no fun at all. For my 440 I went out and bought something heavy duty.

http://www.harborfreight.com/2000-lb-foldable-engine-stand-67015.html

Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: cudabitten] #1295556
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I've flirted with death and destruction many times. I've probably built 5 or 6 426 Iron Hemi's using a three wheeler. I'm lucky to be alive.

Sheldon

Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: cudabitten] #1295557
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My advise is to weld another set wheels on that thing and don't use it with 3 wheels. One of the dumbest things ever sold to us. Don't use it like it is, it's unsafe and stupid. Do they still sell 3 wheel ATVs?

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Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: Challenger 1] #1295558
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This is the 1 I used for my 360 build. It stayed on the stand for 4+ years and I just took it off last week.

http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-...tand-32916.html

Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: None2Slow] #1295559
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Hot Rod Mag tested them and they are plenty strong took like 2000 lbs to bend one. Now like everyone says if actually working on the engine on it be careful they are easy to tip.


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Rick
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Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: HemiRick] #1295560
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I once tipped over my hemi engine, moving it around on one of those 3 wheelers.
Fell right onto the oil filter, cushioning the fall, somewhat, and putting a dent in the valve cover that i hammered out.
Made a big mess, before i could engine hoist it back up again.
3 wheelers work, but you gotta be carefull with them.
After that i bought an expensive 4 wheeler from NAPA, and never had to put it to use.
Go figure.


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Thanks, its the same decision process for me everytime I purchase something for this project. Well, if I spend another 20 or 50 bucks, I can have the better this or that. So I have to cut costs somewhere, and only spend the extra when its most needed. So where do I skimp? On the thing that could kill me.
I already started using this stand, I will not push it on the coasters. When I begin to torque things down I will make the decision to weld or bolt a front cross member. Probably will endup costing more than if I had just bought the better stand. Oh well.
Thanks for your advice on this guys.

One last question, would I be able to start the engine on this?

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Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: cudabitten] #1295562
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Quote:

I just picked this stand up hoping to be able to take this 360 apart to the short block and re-assemble. I will not be turning the engine, just cleaning and re-assembling the pan, heads, intake, etc. Has anyone used this style, and will I be safe? I just want to know if anyone has used this kind safely, not from people who haven't used it at all.






That 3 wheeler looks like an accident waiting to happen. I've got my 383 HP motor on a 4 wheeler from Harbor Freight that works pretty good but it even feels unstable at times depending on how much I try to roll it around in my garage. I wouldn't even try it with that three wheel job. Be careful!


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Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: cudabitten] #1295563
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I like many here used one for years for small blocks, lots of 440s and one hemi. As stated use extreme caution when moving it. Think when you are torquing bolts down so you don't tip it. No disasters with mine which eventually got upgraded like Challenger1 suggests - a quick weld job with some scrap tubing and a pair of casters for a four wheeler. You can make it work. And you can NEVER run an engine on that stand.


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Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: Shoozy] #1295564
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When I did use that kind I put a 2 x 4 piece of wood from the oil pan to the bottom bar to help support the eng in the front. But that said I had one break on me. We were moving the eng and the wood fell out while pushing it and that fast it broke and the eng fell to the ground. Lucky for me it only hit and cut my foot. It broke off right at the weld. It was cheaply built as the new one we have has a hole in the plate and the round bar goes through the plate and is welded on both sides. It is the kind with four wheels and has the eng tilting down in the back. Ron


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Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: 383man] #1295565
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Here it is before it broke. I was lucky that I got my new eng off the stand before it broke as it broke with my old eng on it. Ron


Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: cudabitten] #1295566
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I have a couple of those HF style stands,but really never use them.I have a Lakewood engine stand(same people that make the bellhousings) that is a 3 wheeler,but very sturdy,and rolls easily with a 440 on it.It's built like a tank.


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Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: 383man] #1295567
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When I did use that kind I put a 2 x 4 piece of wood from the oil pan to the bottom bar to help support the eng in the front. But that said I had one break on me. We were moving the eng and the wood fell out while pushing it and that fast it broke and the eng fell to the ground. Lucky for me it only hit and cut my foot. It broke off right at the weld. It was cheaply built as the new one we have has a hole in the plate and the round bar goes through the plate and is welded on both sides. It is the kind with four wheels and has the eng tilting down in the back. Ron






Well that did it for me.....
I still have the box that it came in and they're open today. I checked out those welds on mine and I don't like them, just three 1/2 welds around that cylinder.
If this engine goes over or falls, it'll scare the heck out of me, if it doesn't kill me, and will be a setback to the project.
Thanks again.

Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: cudabitten] #1295568
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When I did use that kind I put a 2 x 4 piece of wood from the oil pan to the bottom bar to help support the eng in the front. But that said I had one break on me. We were moving the eng and the wood fell out while pushing it and that fast it broke and the eng fell to the ground. Lucky for me it only hit and cut my foot. It broke off right at the weld. It was cheaply built as the new one we have has a hole in the plate and the round bar goes through the plate and is welded on both sides. It is the kind with four wheels and has the eng tilting down in the back. Ron






Well that did it for me.....
I still have the box that it came in and they're open today. I checked out those welds on mine and I don't like them, just three 1/2 welds around that cylinder.
If this engine goes over or falls, it'll scare the heck out of me, if it doesn't kill me, and will be a setback to the project.
Thanks again.




Same here as I wont use that kind ever again. The new stronger one we have has the hole in the plate that the arms go on that bolt to the eng. The round hollow bar you see in the pics goes through the plate and is welded on both sides. Much stronger as when you look close at the one that broke you can see the welds did not penetrate much. Ron

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Re: Engine Stand Safety question [Re: 383man] #1295569
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This is why I use my Home made, OVER DONE engine stands when I build a big block.

Both my Big block stands hav had a Cummins on them, and both are still fine.

The next one I build will have pillow blocks on it holding the mast rod/tube.

I use a chunk of solid rod/bar stock for the mast, and use 3/4 plate for the mast itself. I tend to over do it, and I preferr that to a broken crank, or foot.

Kasey

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