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Re: 800psi enough for manual disc brakes ?
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Last edited by 70Cuda383; 09/13/12 07:51 AM.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: 800psi enough for manual disc brakes ?
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09/11/12 12:00 PM
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Just an update : Bedded in the new Hawk HPS pads and happy to report the car stops great...night & day difference !  I feel confident taking it to the track now and being able to slow down from 125+ MPH. Before it felt like a drum brake setup that was overheating and into severe brake fade.  To summarize ; I left the prop valve wide open. No premature lockup on the rear brakes.  Ron
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Re: 800psi enough for manual disc brakes ?
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09/12/12 08:55 AM
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Congrats on getting it fixed!!!
-'02 Dodge Viper Ex-World Challenge racecar
-'73 Duster, 6.1 based 392 hilborn hemi, tko600, full floater rear 9", Hellwig custom bars, viper brakes, built for road course
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Re: 800psi enough for manual disc brakes ?
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09/13/12 07:51 AM
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OK, I cleaned this back up a little to keep it on topic. everyone's had their fun, time to get back on topic.
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Re: 800psi enough for manual disc brakes ?
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09/16/12 08:30 AM
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@firefighter3931/Ron: I have the same set up and have the same problems.
So I would like to change to the hawk pads too.
Could you tell me the exact part number? thanks!
Dennis
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Re: 800psi enough for manual disc brakes ?
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09/18/12 12:15 AM
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An 11 inch rotor for a 4000 lb car is just asking for trouble. No one would design a system like that anymore. Go visit a car lot and look at 4000 lb cars with 300+ hp engines. They'll all have 13 inch or 14 inch rotors.
Funny you should mention it... Up through '02, the 4,000+ lb Dakota's and Durangos had 11" rotors and tiny, single piston calipers. And it's no secret the brakes sucked on them!
dont feel bad my brother in laws tahoe has smaller rotors than the cordoba brakes on my dart!looks even more stupid with 26' rims 
Barely enough for one 55 mph panic stop.
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Re: 800psi enough for manual disc brakes ?
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09/18/12 11:22 AM
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@firefighter3931/Ron: I have the same set up and have the same problems.
So I would like to change to the hawk pads too.
Could you tell me the exact part number? thanks!
Dennis
Hi Dennis, the Hawk HPS pad for the SS Brake 4 piston caliper is : HB471F-510
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HWK-HB471F-510/Application/?prefilter=0
The plate number is D11 which fits several Dodge/Plymouth & Ford factory calipers.
Happy to report the brakes worked great at the track stopping from 120+ MPH. The raceweight is 4200lbs so it's no lightweight, lol !
Make sure you adjust the prop valve wide open and adjust from there. Clockwise opens the valve, fyi 
Ron
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Re: 800psi enough for manual disc brakes ?
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09/18/12 11:27 AM
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An 11 inch rotor for a 4000 lb car is just asking for trouble. No one would design a system like that anymore. Go visit a car lot and look at 4000 lb cars with 300+ hp engines. They'll all have 13 inch or 14 inch rotors.
Funny you should mention it... Up through '02, the 4,000+ lb Dakota's and Durangos had 11" rotors and tiny, single piston calipers. And it's no secret the brakes sucked on them!
dont feel bad my brother in laws tahoe has smaller rotors than the cordoba brakes on my dart!looks even more stupid with 26' rims
Barely enough for one 55 mph panic stop.
We should all be dead by now!
The biggest problem is keeping the sheet metal straight when driving in traffic these days.
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Re: 800psi enough for manual disc brakes ?
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09/18/12 11:28 AM
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Congrats on getting it fixed!!!
Thanks ! Feels much better now and stops great !
Next problem ; traction
Need to play with the cal-tracs  The 572 is blowing the M/T Drag radials off even with a descent burn out and well prepped track 
Ron
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Re: 800psi enough for manual disc brakes ?
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09/18/12 09:34 PM
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We should all be dead by now!
The biggest problem is keeping the sheet metal straight when driving in traffic these days.
In the past it wasn't an issue. Everybody's brakes sucked by comparison.
Now you have SUVs that can stop shorter than many old muscle cars. That means the old car has become the hazard.
That's what I was trying to say, thanks for the clarification.
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Re: 800psi enough for manual disc brakes ?
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10/20/12 01:15 PM
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Short update: I bought me the EBC yellow stuff brake pads for my SSBC force 10 kit as the Hawk pads cost roughly 50% more here in Germany. Even though I drove only 15mls today and the brake-in procedure is not finished I can say right now that it is a huge improvement over the SSBC pads! Next step is to play with the prop valve. Maybe I see the same results as Ron. Dennis
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446cui Dual Quad
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Re: 800psi enough for manual disc brakes ?
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10/31/13 04:24 PM
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Short update on the brakes.
Today I´ve been at the technical inspection.
Last time they measured 300 deca newton for the front brakes.
I changed the stock SSBC pads with EBY Yellowstuff and now they
measured 350 deca newton. that is roughly 17% more stopping power.
Not too bad for a pad change. Real improvment and the first time
I reached more clamping power at the front than at the rear (330daN).
Hamburg/Germany
69 Chrysler 300
446cui Dual Quad
12.64 @ 110.7
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