727 won't kickdown into passing gear....update...
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08/19/12 11:01 PM
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On my '68 Dodge 440/727 I adjusted the passing gear linkage per the FSM twice, and at about 35-40 MPH I floor the car and it will not kick down into 2nd. I verified it was in 3rd by manually shifting into 2nd and back before flooring it. I followed the FSM to a "T" with same result. In the FSM when it says to pull kickdown lever all the way locked forward they do mean forward towards the front of the car, correct?? Also after making adjustments per the FSM I manually pull the throttle to full throttle ( not running) and there is still room for the kickdown lever to move rearwards on the tranny another 1/2 inch or so. Anyone know or have a clue what I am doing wrong here. I know this needs to be right or serious damage can happen.
Last edited by moparrulzzz; 09/06/12 10:04 PM.
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Re: 727 won't kickdown into passing gear..adjustment help..
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08/19/12 11:34 PM
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yes forward as in front of car.
if you have another 1/2" of movement at WOT,then yes,adjust it so it is near all the way or all the way back at WOT also.
you can adjust it slowly to find a shift point you like or get the kickdown where you want it.
Last edited by scratchnfotraction; 08/19/12 11:36 PM.
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Re: 727 won't kickdown into passing gear..adjustment help..
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08/20/12 05:55 PM
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Stock carb or aftermarket? If aftermarket, does it have the correct Mopar throttle lever extension?
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Re: 727 won't kickdown into passing gear..adjustment help..
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08/20/12 08:01 PM
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Having the 1/2 inch of travel at WOT seems wrong to me, normally they are a lot tighter. After you do the vertical rod, you then do the horizontal rod with everything back to it's relaxed state. With the slider all the way forward, I normally have it threaded so it just clears the back of the slot on the slider when you put it on the throttle lever extension, while held forward as the kickdown spring would do. Ideally, then when you do WOT you will not have the slider impeding travel but it will be close.
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Re: 727 won't kickdown into passing gear..adjustment help..
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IIRC... depending on the intake bracket,it may have a hole in bracket/bellcrank to stick a small drill bit in to lock the bellcrank,then you adjust the down rod to the bell crank ball stud,pulling the lower bellcrank and rod to TV lever all the way forward. and IIRC,you then remove the drill bit and adjust the carb stud/slot to the throttle stud with spring pulling all of the linkage forward at closed throttle. I stuck the drill bit in mine,adjusted down rod this way, then removed drill bit and adjusted rod to carb so the throttle stud was to back of slot with all the linkage pull forward at closed throttle. then I slowly lengthend the carb to bell crank rod to get the shift points where I wanted/can live with. I noticed some of the intake brackets do not have the hole for drill bit. could be the price of mix-matching parts on my junk.
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Re: 727 won't kickdown into passing gear..adjustment help..
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08/20/12 10:23 PM
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At full throttle, the kickdown lever at the trans should be all the way back.
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Re: 727 won't kickdown into passing gear..adjustment help..
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Quote:
At full throttle, the kickdown lever at the trans should be all the way back.
That's is not always the case , 1/16 to 1/8" from all the way back is more likely , 1/2" is not .
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Re: 727 won't kickdown into passing gear..adjustment help..
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08/29/12 07:47 PM
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Good luck...you might have worse problems with the Lokar.
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Re: 727 won't kickdown into passing gear..adjustment help..
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09/03/12 01:20 PM
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sounds your on the right track with the lever almost all the way back now. I would say I have had to tweek all of them after a base setting following the FSM. you got the same results most get from the lokar cable,bouchillon cable is a better one to use. keep us posted on it.
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Re: 727 won't kickdown into passing gear..adjustment help..
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Be sure that WOT at the pedal is WOT under the hood; a misadjusted throttle cable will prevent the carb from going wide open.
Have somebody sit in the car and mat the pedal then see if you can push the carb/linkage back some more.
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