Re: Another Whats the HP
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I think I'll pick up some cam bearings tomorrow and put them in another block to see if the lifters will work... if they do I'll have it decked... the company that coated the pistons can remove it... I just have negative vibes with this block.. and its got all nice stuff on it... billet 4 bolt caps, lifter bushings
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Re: Another Whats the HP
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Mike, are you suggesting that somebody sabotaged your engine? i would hate to think anyone you know would do such a thing.
Dan... I have no clue.... but I KNOW its not from inside that engine(as in bearings)
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Re: Another Whats the HP
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If the aluminum isn't from bearings maybe its from the biggest piece of aluminum on the engine, the W5 heads. I would look close at the spring pockets in the heads.
I plan on tearing them down to give them a close look... but I cut them down in the spring pocket for drain back which you have to do on the W-5s but that was a couple years ago.... nothing jumped out at me when I changed them to larger valves
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Re: Another Whats the HP
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Mike, sonic the current block and see if ya can go to 4.080, I have one @ 4.100 running a 3.70 crank
I dont want to buy another set of pistons
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Re: Another Whats the HP
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Are you positive that it is aluminum in the filter?
We put a magnet to it and it didnt stick and its a silverish color so its not steel or a bronze/brass
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Re: Another Whats the HP
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Is the alu shiney or dull? Do you run solid alu or tri metal bearings? what was the round about volume of alu material?
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Re: Another Whats the HP
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MOLY LUBE ?
Well I'm sorry to hear about these difficulties. Mike many of us are here to help if you need it, even morally. (As J. Belushi once said "Was it 'over' for us when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?") I am starting to wonder too if the dyno was screwed-up and that was moly lube in the crankcase...I once 'saved' a rebuild because of that near mistake.
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Re: Another Whats the HP
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Tri-metal, and I didnt use moly on the build... I cant really say how much material was there .. not a lot but more than I would expect to see... I wonder if it was a dyno thing but still the material was there... like I said more than I would have ever expected)... sorta hard to gauge the amount... I ordered up new bearings today plus I ordered cam bearings to install in another block to check if the cam and lifters will work in it... thats has stock oil gallies and IS 4.070 bore... lifter bores are .905 so it all measures good
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Re: Another Whats the HP
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Thanks Pete... but I'm starting all over with the right bore... I'll just have to get it decked EDIT And Pete if you read it then you know it was me so no one had their hands in it... so there is no one to bash except for me
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Re: Another Whats the HP
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Well Mike, just thinking out loud here, You know there was piston to wall scuffs, and there was one bad enough for yu to want to sleeve that hole, could the aluminum have come from there? I know its a long shot, but it could have, also did ya use ARP lube on the bolts? That has made a mess in my pan before, and it didnt take much.
Just poking things around a bit.
The pistons were coated and the coating looked great so that wasnt it... I'm looking to use my other block which has the correct bore for the pistons then start over with it... I'll just transfer the guts into it but its gonna need to be decked... this engine was a error on my part to begin with... I should have grabbed this other block from the start and went with it
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Re: Another Whats the HP
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Well Mike, just thinking out loud here, You know there was piston to wall scuffs, and there was one bad enough for yu to want to sleeve that hole, could the aluminum have come from there? I know its a long shot, but it could have, also did ya use ARP lube on the bolts? That has made a mess in my pan before, and it didnt take much.
Just poking things around a bit.
The pistons were coated and the coating looked great so that wasnt it... I'm looking to use my other block which has the correct bore for the pistons then start over with it... I'll just transfer the guts into it but its gonna need to be decked... this engine was a error on my part to begin with... I should have grabbed this other block from the start and went with it
Been there dont that,
I effed up on a simple 318 build and didnt get the oil galleys cleaned up good enough after I ball honed the lifter bores, there was more material in there than I thought and the rod/main bearings found it in a hurry.
I was more embarrassed than mad.
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