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New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! #1284415
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Ran a new personal Best today in the Cuda at SIR

8.62 at 156mph with a 1.21 sixty foot.

DA was 3,000 feet and temp was 68.5 degree F, with 42.8% humidity.

Here is a video of the run

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLpQda4m4y0&feature=plcp

Thanks to everyone here on Moparts that have helped with suggestions and ideas along the way.

I had the front travel limited to 3", and 2 flats preload on the right ladder bar. Frt shocks at 8 ext and 9 comp.
Rear shocks at 8 ext and 7 comp.

10psi in the tires.

Thanks also to Mike Roth at Mr 2 performance for the suspension set up help.

Now. i just have to get rid of the bump steer when I land the wheelie...

Cheers,

Arnie


67 Cuda 8.48@ 158.7 mph 1.18 60' 2,600 DA(so far...) 70 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 4-speed. 13.2 @ 104 Stock exhaust/Street tires.
Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: cudabin] #1284416
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Congrats! That thing sounds good!

Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: cudabin] #1284417
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Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: Thumperdart] #1284418
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Arnie you are making some serious steam! Congrats on getting it sorted out. When you figure the DA, there is another .07 to .12 in it at sea level!
What tire and gear are you running? Stall speed?

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Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: cudabin] #1284419
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nice video, but i have to say seeing it run up close is 10 times better!

glad i could meeet you in the pits and see your car, nice ride.




Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: 79410aspenrt] #1284420
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Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: cudabin] #1284421
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Quote:

Ran a new personal Best today in the Cuda at SIR
8.62 at 156mph with a 1.21 sixty foot.

Thanks also to Mike Roth at Mr 2 performance for the suspension set up help.


Good to hear!
You have made a lot of progress this year, and getting the chassis dialed-in took some effort.

Awesome sixty foot! I bet that first shift comes real fast.

Are my notes correct on your cam duration? Custom LSM roller 288/304 dur @ .050"

Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: cudabin] #1284422
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That thing is rocking and rolling!

Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: gregsdart] #1284423
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What tire and gear are you running? Stall speed?




Greg,

I am only running 10.5W-31 M/T's and a 4.56 gear so it is trapping at just under 8,000 rpm...

Thanks for the pictures of your cable limiters. That's what I used to limit the travel, but I want to build a bolt/washer deal to limit the upper A-arm travel instead as it would be easier to adjust in small amounts.


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Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: 440Jim] #1284424
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Are my notes correct on your cam duration? Custom LSM roller 288/304 dur @ .050"




Jim, the cam is a custom LSM roller 288/304 dur @ .050", .875"/.867" lift, 114 lsa installed at 112 cl. 68 degrees overlap, 4/7 and 2/3 swap, 54mm core.

Thanks for measuring your front travel for me and all the advice! I ended up at 3" travel and it still wheelies pretty high, so i will probably tighten the frt shocks one more click on the ext next time and see what happens...

What do you think about the incrementals? Best sixty foot of the day was an 1.19, but I waited too long to shift into 2nd, so was not the fastest ET.

Cheers,

Arnie


67 Cuda 8.48@ 158.7 mph 1.18 60' 2,600 DA(so far...) 70 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 4-speed. 13.2 @ 104 Stock exhaust/Street tires.
Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: cudabin] #1284425
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What do you think about the incrementals? Best sixty foot of the day was an 1.19, but I waited too long to shift into 2nd, so was not the fastest ET.



I don't see the incrementals posted ?
sixty
330
660 (1/8)
1000
1320 (1/4)

Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: 440Jim] #1284426
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Congrats on the new best. You have that car working well.


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Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: Al_Alguire] #1284427
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Congrats, looks & sounds good. Can't wait to get my Keith Black combo together someday.


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Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: 440Jim] #1284428
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What do you think about the incrementals? Best sixty foot of the day was an 1.19, but I waited too long to shift into 2nd, so was not the fastest ET.



I don't see the incrementals posted ?
sixty = 1.21
330
660 (1/8)
1000
1320 (1/4)




Jim, it went 1.212 sixty foot, 5.506 1/8 mile ET at 125.99mph then 8.629 at 156.06 mph for the 1/4.

I need to look at the slip for the 330 and 1,000...

Comments?


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Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: cudabin] #1284429
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My commet would beit is working pretty well. My bext 60 with my slug is 1.18 and that was an 8.0 pass. The glide and gear dont help for sure with my car. Keep chipping away at it.

We are curently changing the rear set up in the small tire car in an effort to make it more consistent in the first 60 and it is a similar set up to yours. Ladder bar and good front shock. I feel we are way to aggressive with the ladder bars so going to lower the front mounting point and go back to square one.


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Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: cudabin] #1284430
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Jim, it went 1.212 sixty foot, 5.506 1/8 mile ET at 125.99mph then 8.629 at 156.06 mph for the 1/4.

I need to look at the slip for the 330 and 1,000...

Comments?


Well 8.629/5.506=1.567 and I think that shows it is still making good ET the second half of the track.

156.06-125.99= 30.07 mph gain on the second half and that sounds about right and confirms the first thought.

Sixty target = 8.629*.12 + 0.17 = 1.205 and you are right there, confirming a good sixty foot time.

And from the video, I thought the wheel stand was just fine, not excessive for a ladder bar car.

Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: 440Jim] #1284431
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Here is another video from later in eliminations when they had re-prepped the track.


Don't you think this is too much wheelie??? It actually bounced into a second smaller wheelie after the first touch down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBVztUgqwys&feature=plcp


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Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: cudabin] #1284432
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Great job dialing in your suspension. Car sounds great as well. Videos are a great motivator to get me working on my car as well.


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Just curious. What's your car weigh?

Re: New Best for the 557ci Keith Black bullet in the Cuda! [Re: OUTLAWSSAA] #1284434
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Car does sound good. It looks like it could be tripping the 60 w/the back tire in the 1st vid?


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