Going trough my junk and found a set of these 14x5.5 (LBP)wheels. Can't remember if there off my old 67'383 wagon or r/t or neither. Back space looks to be 3.750", center hole is about 2.8" all that is by stem is five on one side and five and one on the other side. Might be early 68' as the wagon was late 67' Any ideas ? Thanks

Picture of wheel. Also 67' style large dog dish fits wheel.

Those look to be correct 67 "Hemi" wheels (all HP 440 and Hemi B-body cars came with those unless ordered with Chrome Road Wheels, all 67 B-body wagons also had them regardless of engine). Later 67 versions had date codes on them (they started adding date codes sometime around March 67). 1966 versions were identical but had an extra hole in between each lug hole.

*Do you have all 5?

Stop the presses! I just noticed the small wheel cover retention nubs on the outer rim areas. Those are not B-body rims, they are the (WAY more common) C-body style.

Thanks Scott, are the nubs you are talking about the ones by the valve stem ?

Yes, you can see one of them a couple inches to the right of the valve stem about even with the cap in your first pic

Well I found a picture showing some of my old cars including the wagon and it had those wheels on it. I bought the wagon from second owner. He bought when it was a year old from the dodge dealer here in Seattle. They told him it was a lease return. Was a gold car originaly but was painted white sometime before he bought it. Was neat car disc brake, 3:23 suregrip, 383 four barrel and ran strong. Wheels must have been replaced early on.

Went through some more pictures today and here is one of the 67 r/t looks like the same wheel to me. Hard to see nubs by valve stem in this picture as I had to scan it. But when I upped the resolution looked like they where there. If current owner of car is member here how about a wheel picture ? Car is gold, black painted top, white interior, 4spd console. Thanks

The black wheel shown is 100% absalutely possitively an original 1967 14x5.5 B-body "Hemi Wheel". Check out the details. Then look at the next example, a blue painted wheel, which is also a 14x5.5, but NOT a Hemi wheel.

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This one is NOT a Hemi wheel but looks very close to one, as does yours (likely exactly like yours). Do you see an "KH" markings anywhere on yours?

See those little nubs? They are not found on Hemi wheels

Scott, is the difference B-body vs C-body like on friday, or Hemi vs non Hemi like today? Does a 440 GTX have the same wheel as a hemi R/T, and the same wheel as a 67 B-body wagon? confused.

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Does a 440 GTX have the same wheel as a hemi R/T, and the same wheel as a 67 B-body wagon? confused.

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Yes, 67 440/Hemi R/T and GTX, and all 67 (B-body) Wagons used the same 14 x 5.5 wheels.

The only versions they used were the style shown in my example (black wheels) above.

The only possible exception would be the 1966 high performance/wagon B-body versions that could have made it on to a few early build 67s. The 66 wheels look identical to the 67s other than having additional holes between the lug holes.

Any other variations that turn up were used on some other application (C-body, truck, later year application, or other brand like Ford, whatever).

Here are some wheels known to be from original 67 B-bodies. This is from a 67 Belvedere II, 383 2bbl, trailer towing, 11' brakes, sway bar 3.23 SG, 14x5.5 wheels, 775x14 tires. all 5 including spare look like this. I have the window sticker. Built in LA.

775 - 14 spare still new

can you post pics of the centers showing the flats between the lug holes in good detail? Do they have date code or manufacturer stampings (such as "KH"?

This is from a 67 Belvedere wagon junkyard car. The wheels are body color, beat up small hub caps inside the car, had 2 wheels, one ruined. I have the certicard, unable to locate at this time. It has a stamped KELSEY HAYS in a circle on the inside of the bead. Wont show up in a photo with this camera

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This is from a 1967 GTX I bought from the original owner. This was the spare, other 4 wheels MIA. I have fender tag, certi card with his name on it, IBM card. The car was built 9-27 in St Louis.

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NANKET,

I have two sets of wheels, one from a 67 Belvedere I wagon, another from a 67 Hemi GTX. None of them have the nubs as in your photos. I had not previously seen any examples with the nubs on any 67 B-body so your pics got me curious and I did some further digging. I contacted a friend with several original cars, he claims that some have the nubs, and some don't, he's going to get me some pics that I can post so we can hopefully get to the bottom of this. I can only assume that there were multiple vendors or variables between plants. All of my originals have been either St.Louis, or Los Angeles plant cars and none of mine are KH wheels (which is why I asked several times on this thread about the vendor markings). Also, the early examples I have (November 1966 SPD, St. Louis) have no date codes, the later set I have (April 1967 SPD Los Angeles) have date code stampings.

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Scott,

I learned something new today - I had heard years ago that the two little "nubs" by the valve stem hole was created by the machine that grabbed the wheel and punched the hole for the valve stem. How do they work for hub cap retention??? You would think they spaced farther apart and maybe more of them - or am I not seeing something??

Jim

Noo Jim, you arent missing anything, I just didnt describe it very well. They are not wheel cover retention lugs, I just thought they were (I am viewing these pics on my cell phone and mistook them for another similar type Ive seen on C-body wheels). Your assesment is likely correct.