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Re: Hemi vs Wedge [Re: jim sciortino] #1262598
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I'll stick with my previous statement...

And leave it at that...

Re: Hemi vs Wedge [Re: RSNOMO] #1262599
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I'll stick with my previous statement...

And leave it at that...


Fair enough....

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Re: HEMI [Re: Bishop] #1262601
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Anybody that says the wedge has the potential of a hemi has a complex. That's all there is to it.

Re: HEMI [Re: viperblue72] #1262602
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For n/a application hard to beat a wedge for a boosted motor hemi all the way


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Re: HEMI [Re: Edge] #1262603
07/17/12 08:22 AM
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For n/a application hard to beat a HEMI for a boosted motor hemi all the way.
just sayin...

Re: HEMI [Re: 572_HEMI_Cuda] #1262604
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Reading over this thread I am amazed how many people have their head in the dirt. One engine was built for the purpose of racing and the other was to move the station wagon around. I will say that a stock hemi head outflows my best ported wedge heads and I can't recall seeing a wedge on the back of any top fuel car lately or ever for that matter.

One is simply better for racing, it is a fact. Seems silly to debate to me.

Re: HEMI [Re: scatpacktom] #1262605
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Reading over this thread I am amazed how many people have their head in the dirt. One engine was built for the purpose of racing and the other was to move the station wagon around. I will say that a stock hemi head outflows my best ported wedge heads and I can't recall seeing a wedge on the back of any top fuel car lately or ever for that matter.

One is simply better for racing, it is a fact. Seems silly to debate to me.


Hush!!!

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Re: Hemi vs Wedge [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1262606
07/17/12 10:31 AM
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"The hemi comes from the factory with two carbs, so you arent adding anything. Add carbs to your wedge and you are."

440 comes with 3??? not saying a hemi isn't a better engine at all, just saying for 90% of us it's not financially practical. Even if it's going in a race car unless the OP wants to go 8's a wedge now a days is going to be much cheaper. You can build a real nice wedge for under 10k.... you can't build a Hemi for that. If you can you already have half the parts on your shelf.

Re: Hemi vs Wedge [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1262607
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"The hemi comes from the factory with two carbs, so you arent adding anything. Add carbs to your wedge and you are."

440 comes with 3??? not saying a hemi isn't a better engine at all, just saying for 90% of us it's not financially practical. Even if it's going in a race car unless the OP wants to go 8's a wedge now a days is going to be much cheaper. You can build a real nice wedge for under 10k.... you can't build a Hemi for that. If you can you already have half the parts on your shelf.




The thing is once you own the parts there is no engine easier to make power with. You can make more power by mistake with a hemi. Its no problem at all to make 7 or 800 hp with all the stock castings, stock rocker arms for crying out loud. Try that with a wedge.

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Re: Hemi vs Wedge [Re: scatpacktom] #1262608
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"The hemi comes from the factory with two carbs, so you arent adding anything. Add carbs to your wedge and you are."

440 comes with 3??? not saying a hemi isn't a better engine at all, just saying for 90% of us it's not financially practical. Even if it's going in a race car unless the OP wants to go 8's a wedge now a days is going to be much cheaper. You can build a real nice wedge for under 10k.... you can't build a Hemi for that. If you can you already have half the parts on your shelf.




The thing is once you own the parts there is no engine easier to make power with. You can make more power by mistake. Its no problem at all to make 7 or 800 hp with all the stock castings, stock rocker arms for crying out loud. Try that with a wedge.




Thanks Tommy. thats kinda what I have been trying to say...

Mr Y, not saying wedges suck, its just that my original point was that with relatively minimal mods and caveman technology these things made tons of steam. Apply the same level of mods to the wedge and you arent getting the same results-not even close. We all know you can make a B-1 or Predator headed "wedge" motor thgt hauls the mail, but thats a discussion for another thread.

MB

Re: Hemi vs Wedge [Re: HPMike] #1262609
07/17/12 01:05 PM
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You HEMI guys are funny.


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Re: Hemi vs Wedge [Re: HPMike] #1262610
07/18/12 10:53 PM
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"The hemi comes from the factory with two carbs, so you arent adding anything. Add carbs to your wedge and you are."

440 comes with 3??? not saying a hemi isn't a better engine at all, just saying for 90% of us it's not financially practical. Even if it's going in a race car unless the OP wants to go 8's a wedge now a days is going to be much cheaper. You can build a real nice wedge for under 10k.... you can't build a Hemi for that. If you can you already have half the parts on your shelf.




The thing is once you own the parts there is no engine easier to make power with. You can make more power by mistake. Its no problem at all to make 7 or 800 hp with all the stock castings, stock rocker arms for crying out loud. Try that with a wedge.




Thanks Tommy. thats kinda what I have been trying to say...

Mr Y, not saying wedges suck, its just that my original point was that with relatively minimal mods and caveman technology these things made tons of steam. Apply the same level of mods to the wedge and you arent getting the same results-not even close. We all know you can make a B-1 or Predator headed "wedge" motor thgt hauls the mail, but thats a discussion for another thread.

MB




It's just nice to know that you can get BOTH a "full race-orientated" motor (HEMI), and a "Super Street" type motor
(Wedge) on the SAME big block platform from MA MOPAR.



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Re: Hemi vs Wedge [Re: Ari440] #1262611
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I like the fact that you are trying to compare a wedge to a hemi

two diffrent motors




Two different motors, yes...but from the SAME
basic foundation or block dimensions.
HEMI - High rpm powerhouse.
WEDGE - Lower rpm torque monster.
Best battleground is between the 220ft and 1000ft marks (1/4 mi). A good lead margin there, you've won.



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Re: Hemi vs Wedge [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #1262612
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I like the fact that you are trying to compare a wedge to a hemi

two diffrent motors




Two different motors, yes...but from the SAME
basic foundation or block dimensions.
HEMI - High rpm powerhouse.
WEDGE - Lower rpm torque monster.
Best battleground is between the 220ft and 1000ft marks (1/4 mi). A good lead margin there, you've won.









the blocks are not the same


if the wedge block was like the hemi block (4 )cross bolt mains


and they kept the max wedge port or even bigger / diffrent head (none hemi )


maybe the wedge would have been better than it is


if you where to compare the hemi to big block chevy it would be intresting


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Re: Hemi vs Wedge [Re: Ari440] #1262613
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How long after the first Hemi dyno pull did it take Chrysler to discontinue the Max Wedge program?

Re: Hemi vs Wedge [Re: scatpacktom] #1262614
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Run that question by Tom Hoover...

Re: Hemi vs Wedge [Re: scatpacktom] #1262615
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It's been said before and it is kind of a silly "argument". While the Chrysler wedge was/is ia very durable and capable design, to compare the two is kind of ridiculous.

It would have been interesting if Ford had developed some of their max effort stuff to be more mainstream, like the SOHC and Boss motors. There was some real potential there and Ford had some dedicated people working there at the time that were very race oriented.

GM had the resources at the time to probably bury both Ford and Chrysler during that era and had some exotic stuff in prototype form, but because they didnt place enough emphasis on high performance/ max effort race stuff and were selling cars at a ridiculous pace, it never came to fruition. Why mess with success? The purpose of all of this was to sell more cars, so they didnt bother. It might have gotten more interesting if John DeLorean had more influence. And while they still managed to create some hot machinery, at the end of the day they dont compare to the Hemi in terms of max performance...

Let's just rejoice as fans of this marque that the hemi has the status that it has and earned. I like the line someone else posted earlier. No one ever looks at a Hemi and says, "too bad it's not a wedge"...that says it all...

MB

Re: Hemi vs Wedge [Re: HPMike] #1262616
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Re: Hemi vs Wedge [Re: HEMIFRED] #1262617
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