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Re: R5 P7 question with pictures [Re: mafo] #1258136
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Bill Harris picked up considerably going to the Bruno G force over the powerglide.

It sure looked like you were having a lot of fun Ken shifting gears.

I understand the concept of having to apply T-brake to get the trans in gear. Just like the input shaft brake on a big truck. You either have to be rolling or push the clutch to the floor to apply the brake or it aint going in gear. Rrrrrgh Rnnngtt Rgnnnttt-tt

Don't really understand the reasons for the fourth gear deal not wanting to come out of gear. I assume the converter is turning the input and not wanting to quit after a burnout. The driveshaft has almost or stopped and everything is jammed with stored energy. Bump the Transbrake to stop the input shaft and the tranny will let go of fourth gear. Does this make sense?


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Re: R5 P7 question with pictures [Re: Leon441] #1258137
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fourth have a different slider than the others, it will pop out of gear in a no load situation only, you will have engine braking in 4 gear and when you drive around the pits you use 4 gear

once you have stopped the car with fourth engaged the only way to get neutral is to shut the engine down, the tb trick only works if the car is still rolling, slowly that is, to much speed and it will lock up the rear wheels when the slider don t have time to find the "window"

I make my burnouts in third to avoid the hassle


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Re: R5 P7 question with pictures [Re: Leon441] #1258138
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Ok so you are saying when I go through the traps and let off the gas, the trans will not neutral out that I have to blip the throttle to get it to neutral out?

Just wanting to make sure....

Also if I am doing a rolling burnout I can 3-4 shift and not have to worry about sticking in 4th? it will neutral out? then reverse back? I feel like such a newb. This is getting way complicated. Clutch please!!!

Re: R5 P7 question with pictures [Re: mopartony] #1258139
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you will figure it out

I have been thinking about a clutch lately ,according to the clutch guys
my car would fly with a clutch , but I m not so sure...


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Re: R5 P7 question with pictures [Re: mafo] #1258140
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I have worked on a clutch Liberty combo before.

They fly. but the between round maint is crazy.


Better hope you don't have to hot lap the car, you don't have the time to cool the clutch enough to re-zero it and make any adjustments. Also a race pak would be needed to see what is going on. A lot of things go into making clutch cars go. One reason there are not many clutch cars and a lot running a Bruno.

Re: R5 P7 question with pictures [Re: mopartony] #1258141
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Quote:

I have worked on a clutch Liberty combo before.

They fly. but the between round maint is crazy.


Better hope you don't have to hot lap the car, you don't have the time to cool the clutch enough to re-zero it and make any adjustments. Also a race pak would be needed to see what is going on. A lot of things go into making clutch cars go. One reason there are not many clutch cars and a lot running a Bruno.




AMEN! There is some ET to be found in the clutch can just not sure it's worth the hassle. LOL


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Re: R5 P7 question with pictures [Re: Plumb Wired] #1258142
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I hate extra work...


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Re: R5 P7 question with pictures [Re: mafo] #1258143
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Lets not forget the extra parts and tools, blower to help cool the clutch. you will need extra wts if you are running a good syntrifical clutch. down to 1/8th of a gram.

Then you can get into the how to set it up, how much base, how much is added, how fast. Yup not easy and the reason good clutch guys are hard to find.

Re: R5 P7 question with pictures [Re: mopartony] #1258144
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I know there is some computer programs that help someone like me that have no idea how to set up a clutch, but it would still be a steep learning curve, a lot of money and probably more work than it s worth

well, maybe I will have a real race car someday


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Re: R5 P7 question with pictures [Re: mafo] #1258145
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Your car is nice already. no worries there!!!

I crewed that car for 4 years, trying to learn everything I could. The clutch was the hardest. Between reading the track, guessing what the track is going to do and getting the rest of the car set correctly.

I learned enough to be dangerous.... In the end the only thing I didn't do was make the final call on adjustments to the clutch. I was asked every pass what I thought.

Re: R5 P7 question with pictures [Re: mopartony] #1258146
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I missed something Tony, what car is this going in?


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New project kind....

Re: R5 P7 question with pictures [Re: mopartony] #1258148
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You mean this one??

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Your car is nice already. no worries there!!!

I crewed that car for 4 years, trying to learn everything I could. The clutch was the hardest. Between reading the track, guessing what the track is going to do and getting the rest of the car set correctly.

I learned enough to be dangerous.... In the end the only thing I didn't do was make the final call on adjustments to the clutch. I was asked every pass what I thought.



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Re: R5 P7 question with pictures [Re: duster400] #1258149
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Hey man how are you doing.

Yes that is the one.

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