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Help with my new 340 build up #1257740
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Looking to build my first 340 sb and would like to see 450-500hp with a 750 dominator carb. I like aluminum heads, but which one. Whats the difference between the w2,w5,and w8 heads. Any help to point me in the right direction is greatly appreciated.
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I dont think you need anything but an out of the box eddy head to make the 500 hp your requiring, if your willing to stroke it.

I just made 511 hp with stock eddy heads, an air gap intake and a 750 HP carb.

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Re: Help with my new 340 build up [Re: 67barrracuda] #1257742
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This is old, but the information is still the same
http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/smallblock/23.html

What are your goals? Stroker crank in the budget? Street car? Race Only?

Tons of different ways to get the job done in this scenario.


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Re: Help with my new 340 build up [Re: 67barrracuda] #1257743
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Looking to build my first 340 sb and would like to see 450-500hp with a 750 dominator carb. I like aluminum heads, but which one. Whats the difference between the w2,w5,and w8 heads. Any help to point me in the right direction is greatly appreciated.
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W2,W5 and especially W8s are overkill for those levels.......not to mention alittle "involved".

Stick a 4in arm in that thing with a touched uo Eddy and you'll have a nice street combo with plenty of steam.

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Here is a Hughes 426 I had on my dyno recently. Kind of shows you how mild of a build will get you where you want to be if you go with a longer stroke combination.
It had a real mild Hughes 3237 hydraulic cam.
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What I have is a 67 barracuda notchback , auto trans, 3.91 posi, 29" drag radials. Looking to build something to push it into the 11's, but be very streetable and run cool. I could build a stroker, but is it worth the money if I'm not looking for a 600hp motor. I see a lot of different head choices out there for sb mopars and was looking for what combinations really worked.


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Yes a stroker combination is worth it. At your level you could use the cast steel crankshaft thats under 400 dollars. And yes these cast cranks are plenty strong for that level. So you get 416 cubes out of a 340 for only about 200 bucks more than you would normally pay. Plus lighter rotating assembly.
I would use some edelbrock heads at your level, or score some used w2 heads for when you want to turn it up a little more.

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If you go with a 4" crank deal, and RHS heads like the ones IMM sells you'll be into the mid-low 11's.
Easy to get 480HP from a nice hyd. cam, rpm airgap intake and 10.2:1 compression.
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You can get well into the 11's without a stroker.

Little brother has a 9-1 360, ported eddies, weiand excellerator, dinky small tube headers( its a 66dart gt) 750 holley, and a healthier than it needs to be flat tappet cam and runs 11.40's without working up a sweat.Can drive the thing anywhere.

I have a bauudy who ran 10.90's with a comp cams 525/305 hydralic cam in a 360 but had some compression with eddies that werent ported.
Good eddies and matching parts and 11's are real easy.

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Re: Help with my new 340 build up [Re: DJVCuda] #1257749
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I dont think you need anything but an out of the box eddy head to make the 500 hp your requiring, if your willing to stroke it.

I just made 511 hp with stock eddy heads, an air gap intake and a 750 HP carb.

MY 430 BUILD


with a 340 done right,super easy w A 4" crank for some cubes...and a lightly touched up set of eddy's..if i were you i'd do it with a hyd roller cam,no maint type deal

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A 340 will have to turn to get that HP. Most of the ones I've seen turn around 6500 to get there with rhs/ede heads.

I'd look at a stroker with some heads,IMM RHS, ede's with some work, much easier to get the number and don't have to turn it more than about 5500 with a 3.90 gear in the back. A good working car will run mid 11's or faster pretty and still be docile around the street.

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Thanks for all the good information.
OK, this is what I'm thinking.
stroke the motor ( what need to be done to the block for a stroker kit)
eddy heads (out of the box)
air gap intake
750 carb
Which cam and how much compression?


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Is there any year 340 block better any another?
I have a chance to pick up a 72 bare block for $250, do you think it's worth it?


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If the block is std. bore I think that would be a pretty good deal.

Re: Help with my new 340 build up [Re: 67barrracuda] #1257754
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stroke the motor ( what need to be done to the block for a stroker kit)
eddy heads (out of the box)





you might need to notch the bottoms of the cylinders depending on what rods and stroke you use.

and eddy's out of the box is a bad idea - have them gone through by a machine shop - mine OOTB were too tight on the valve guides and had a bunch of intake valves with too much seat runout. They also had alot of left over chunks in the water passages from being machined at teh factory.

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A 340 will have to turn to get that HP. Most of the ones I've seen turn around 6500 to get there with rhs/ede heads.

I'd look at a stroker with some heads,IMM RHS, ede's with some work, much easier to get the number and don't have to turn it more than about 5500 with a 3.90 gear in the back. A good working car will run mid 11's or faster pretty and still be docile around the street.


not really my sb 340 that made 506hp did it all by 5800rpm the tq was nice like 540ish..my friends use to laugh cause i would shift at 6ooo they thought i wasnt bringing it high enough.

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Which heads could be used out of the box?


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Edelbrocks are fine, or the RHS heads from Brian at IMM. But what people are saying is you should have them checked by your machine shop before bolting them on the engine. Being a mass produced item things often slip through the cracks.

I didn't have mine checked, and mine were fine but I was taking a gamble and I knew that. As a broke college student it was my only option.

If you get the RHS heads from IMM, Brian assembles them, so they would not need to be checked again.


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A 340 will have to turn to get that HP. Most of the ones I've seen turn around 6500 to get there with rhs/ede heads.

I'd look at a stroker with some heads,IMM RHS, ede's with some work, much easier to get the number and don't have to turn it more than about 5500 with a 3.90 gear in the back. A good working car will run mid 11's or faster pretty and still be docile around the street.


not really my sb 340 that made 506hp did it all by 5800rpm the tq was nice like 540ish..my friends use to laugh cause i would shift at 6ooo they thought i wasnt bringing it high enough.




Stock stroke? With which head and how much additional work? Doubt it got there with an OOTB ede head without a 4" arm.

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Id go with ebrocks because the rhs are really heavy

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