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Delphi 600 Box #1247730
06/09/12 01:55 PM
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I haven't seen anyone excited about the Borgeson/Delphi steering box. To me this is the missing link with modified stock suspension. Fast accurate on center feel is what has been lacking with the modified oe boxes on the market currently.

Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: BergmanAutoCraft] #1247731
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Do you have a link because most of us probably have never heard or seen one.


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Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: moparpollack] #1247732
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When someone actually has one in their car you will hear more I'm sure. If its clears a big block ill own one myself.


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Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: moparpollack] #1247733
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Borgeson.com. I'll paste the link later

Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: BergmanAutoCraft] #1247734
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Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: BergmanAutoCraft] #1247735
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I haven't seen anyone excited about the Borgeson/Delphi steering box. To me this is the missing link with modified stock suspension. Fast accurate on center feel is what has been lacking with the modified oe boxes on the market currently.





Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: autoxcuda] #1247736
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Ouch,lot of money.Do you need thier coupler too?

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You need the coupler. This is one of the top 3 mods to your car.

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Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: BergmanAutoCraft] #1247738
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Id bet they don't make much on the box and that's where the $130 coupler comes into play. A good deal right now in this econmy would be $750 complete. Throw that at them Peter!


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Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: pro451bee] #1247739
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Ouch,lot of money.Do you need thier coupler too?






Not really,...when you consider the prices that some get for used T/A steering boxes...$750 for a NEW 14:1 PS ratio box is actually quite reasonable, I run some Borgeson made componets on my rides, very well made, very durable....I'd definately consider one of these PS boxes on my Challenger T/A rather than a Firm Feel upgrade in the future

Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: DAYCLONA] #1247740
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This is an old topic, most were worried about the welding on the housing. Tim

found it
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1

Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: astjp2] #1247741
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That's not a bad deal at all.


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Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: AlexP] #1247742
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If I scored one of those I would fear no autox....


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Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: 72Swinger] #1247743
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Wouldn't putting a steering multiplier be cheaper and easier? They are used a lot on the short tracks.


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Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: DAYCLONA] #1247744
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Ouch,lot of money.Do you need thier coupler too?






Not really,...when you consider the prices that some get for used T/A steering boxes...$750 for a NEW 14:1 PS ratio box is actually quite reasonable, I run some Borgeson made componets on my rides, very well made, very durable....I'd definately consider one of these PS boxes on my Challenger T/A rather than a Firm Feel upgrade in the future




The comparison to an original T/A box is apple to oranges. That is a resto "numbers" part. It really has no performance advantage over a rebuilt non T/A power steering box of the same age.

Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: moparpollack] #1247745
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Wouldn't putting a steering multiplier be cheaper and easier? They are used a lot on the short tracks.


might be cheaper but definitely not easier.


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Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: BergmanAutoCraft] #1247746
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Okay, so it has a somewhat faster ratio built in to it. That does simplify center link interference for some engine/header set ups compared to fast ratio arms. Other than that, what does it provide that you can't achieve with a Firm Feel box? Does it weigh 10 pounds less, does it have less drag, or what. Not sure if I'm too thrilled about the vibration reducing coupling offering either. That typically rings of reduced road feel. In what way does this unit deliver twice the value of the other offerings that are out there?

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Ratio is key. On center it's got to be infinitely better than our beloved 21:1 dinosaur.

Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: BergmanAutoCraft] #1247748
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Looks like $850 shipped is the best deal I can get at the moment.


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Re: Delphi 600 Box [Re: 72Swinger] #1247749
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i am considering this box...wonder if it fits hemi with tti headers and schaumackers mounts.....do you have to modify steering column for this adapter to work...anyone have a pic of the adapter ?


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