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Re: Why do some need help finding the staging beams??
[Re: 70HemiGTX]
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06/01/12 09:11 AM
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I can find the stage lights on my own. I'm not blind. I haven't raced much, but I try to trip the pre stage and then immediately go in to the stage light and get ready to go. That way when the other guy is staged I'm ready and not hurring to get my rpms up. If that makes any sense.
Not real nice to double bulb the other guy.  You are supposed to wait till both are prestaged.
I'm not trying to rush the other guy. I just want to get in there and be ready. I know there is a time limit on the lights. Like I said I haven't raced much yet. I'm just trying to get my crap in order so I don't have the other guy sitting there waiting on me.
As for all the other people running around a car, to me that would be a huge distraction.
All you're gonna do is make people mad if you double bulb every time you run. Wait to stage when the other guy has prestaged.
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Re: Why do some need help finding the staging beams??
[Re: codfish]
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06/01/12 09:42 AM
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As a track worker, and after standing on the starting line at several races, it is amazing how many cars are NOT lined up in the groove. Some are not even close. I am not talking just fun nights, but bracket races and divisional points meets. You will often see me helping friends on the line, mostly to ensure they are indeed in the "groove". The starting line is a tricky area, bald spots can begin to appear very quickly and are not always visible form the drivers seat. It never hurts to have that extra little bit of confidence that your in the right spot on the lane to get a more consistent launch, particularly on a car with border-line traction. How many of you drivers have actually had the opportunity to stage your car, then get out and walk around it to see how you are lined up? If you haven't done that, how do you know your "spot" is actually in the grove? A couple of inches one way or the other could make the difference between a perfect launch and a sudden pull to towards the wall. And while the track prep guys work hard, it is not uncommon for them to miss a few drops of oil from the previous car. The driver cannot see these well enough, so that is the spotters job. In a perfect world, the entire starting line area should be prepped and sticky, but at an event trying to run 300 cars down the track 7 or 8 times in a day, the starting line is not always consistent and the best place to be can move a little. Since bracket racing is all about consistency, why not try to have an extra edge and added confidence by knowing you are properly positioned and on the sticky part of the starting line? I am not talking about show boating, with 3 guys on the line, but just an extra pair of eyes to help the driver at one of the most important areas of the track. Just my , but you will never see me knock a guy for trying a little harder to win! Scott 
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Re: Why do some need help finding the staging beams??
[Re: ProStDodge]
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06/01/12 10:08 AM
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I race at Brainerd and they dont allow anyone at the starting line, Every once and awhile someone will have one person help them stage the car but you never see anyone at the line other then track oficials or maybe a photagrapher. Obviously some of the real fast classes that have a crew like in outlaw or something will have some people on the line. As for double bulbing someone, I dont do it and it just seems to be a no no!
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Re: Why do some need help finding the staging beams??
[Re: joshking440]
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06/01/12 10:19 AM
06/01/12 10:19 AM
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I will say for a turbo guy...its pretty nice to know that you are almost in the prestage.... that building boost on teh starting line, bump in....then the transbrake in the prestage beams and bump it on and off a few times to creap forward into the stage beams is a lot to do in just a few seconds
I am sure there are a couple more examples of types of cars (ProStock, Funny Car, etc.) that really benefit from staging beam assistance. Excessive use of the clutch approaching, etc.
However, in the bracket racing levels; I don't think anyone other than a pure beginner (first few races) should need help finding the beams.
Now getting lined up correctly (straight, in the groove, etc) is another story and I can understand the benefit of an outside observer.
I go to the track by myself, so even if I wanted it, nobody is there but me.
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Re: Why do some need help finding the staging beams??
[Re: 70HemiGTX]
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06/01/12 10:19 AM
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I can find the stage lights on my own. I'm not blind. I haven't raced much, but I try to trip the pre stage and then immediately go in to the stage light and get ready to go. That way when the other guy is staged I'm ready and not hurring to get my rpms up. If that makes any sense.
Not real nice to double bulb the other guy. You are supposed to wait till both are prestaged.
I'm not trying to rush the other guy. I just want to get in there and be ready. I know there is a time limit on the lights. Like I said I haven't raced much yet. I'm just trying to get my crap in order so I don't have the other guy sitting there waiting on me.
As for all the other people running around a car, to me that would be a huge distraction.
Double bulb someone around here and you'll get backed up right away.
"Come get your wife"
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Re: Why do some need help finding the staging beams??
[Re: ProStDodge]
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06/01/12 10:23 AM
06/01/12 10:23 AM
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Having someone line you up in the groove if you have a fast car is one thing...that I can understand. Also someone to turn on the datalogger. The rest is unnecessary.
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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Why do some need help finding the staging beams??
[Re: 383man]
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06/01/12 12:11 PM
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Hey 383man from your picture it looks like you are in the far right side of the grove. Just sayin!
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Re: Why do some need help finding the staging beams??
[Re: 1967dartgt]
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06/01/12 01:11 PM
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I have absolutly no problem with finding the beams,,,but I just cannot for the life of me find the payout window. 
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Re: Why do some need help finding the staging beams??
[Re: 1967dartgt]
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06/01/12 01:50 PM
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Hey 383man from your picture it looks like you are in the far right side of the grove. Just sayin!
Na thats just an illusion. Look at the right rear tire and you can see its right in the middle.  Ron
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Re: Why do some need help finding the staging beams??
[Re: dragram440]
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06/01/12 02:24 PM
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Courteous staging is a rule here, if you double bulb and don't back up yourself you will be instructed to do so.
"Come get your wife"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Front and rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
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Re: Why do some need help finding the staging beams??
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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06/01/12 03:36 PM
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My friend was double bulbing all the time on drag week and I told him that wasnt the thing to do... I must have told him 10 times during the week.... he kept saying he forgot... he still does it once in a while 
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Re: Why do some need help finding the staging beams??
[Re: codfish]
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06/01/12 03:43 PM
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i help with a unlimited 8.5 car.
the tire size is 9 inches wide, it goes low 1.2x sixty foot. it runs low 5's in 1/8.
it take a certain mind set to do that. in the time after the burn out, the driver needs to check all gauges, turn on nitrous, open bottle , find the best part of the track as possible , pre stage bump im... all while worrying about how the car is going to react... will it hook and go, will it blow the tires off? will it stand straight up?, all of which he has to deal with differently... so if anything having your buddy put you in the beams is just a little comforting. having him put you in the best groove is that much more comforting. and knowing he is making sure your perfectly straight, so you dont mow the tree if it wheels stands helps too. its a lot mental
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Re: Why do some need help finding the staging beams??
[Re: mcat4321]
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06/01/12 04:16 PM
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The Rules at most tracks say you can have 1 helper so why not use them.That's an extra set of eyes to help check every thing like oil or lose parts left over by other cars. Unlike a lot of people I can load my race-car in the trailer unload it and race it at the track all by myself I need no help what so ever,but it makes everything so much easier when you have good help.At the present I have 2 of the Best that I have ever had in my 25+ years racing,so yes they are going to be out there with the car every time. If you want to Win races you have got to be on top of everything that is going on,and 1 person just can not do that.
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Re: Why do some need help finding the staging beams??
[Re: MRMOPAR622]
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06/01/12 04:39 PM
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Stage with your rear tires,window down and AC on. LOL!!! Seen alot of guys do that. Seems like most had mustangs.
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