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1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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For the Charger, available colors were:
GB5, GY3, GF7 (cancelled midyear), EV2, FC7, and FJ6, correct?
And for the Challenger, FC7, FJ6, EV2, GY3, and GB5?
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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For the Charger, available colors were:
GB5, GY3, GF7 (cancelled midyear), EV2, FC7, and FJ6, correct?
And for the Challenger, FC7, FJ6, EV2, GY3, and GB5?
For Challenger it is only FC7, EV2, GY3 and GB5.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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Really? No FJ6? Okay!
Nope just those four colors. In my many travels I've seen GB5 (Floyd), EV2 (my car) and a 340 GY3 Challenger that came out of the Bay Area. Never seen an FC7 car but there has been a purple real rear bumper at Carlisle the past two years.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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I was looking at Barry's site and there's a lot of confusing information. Initially:
- M73 front/rear for the R/T
- Then, in Sept 1970, M71 front-only introduced for the R/T
- Additionally, in Sept, the rubber bumpers became available for base Challengers but the code for them were A21 and A22.
At least that's what it seems, as strange as it sounds.
They might have used those codes because it would have changed the grill and rear tail panel to the RT black.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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Really? No FJ6? Okay!
Nope just those four colors. In my many travels I've seen GB5 (Floyd), EV2 (my car) and a 340 GY3 Challenger that came out of the Bay Area. Never seen an FC7 car but there has been a purple real rear bumper at Carlisle the past two years.
The July 6, 1970 coding guide lists FJ6 and also FE5. I know this is early info. Did they decide not to actually release those two colors for production?
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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They might have used those codes because it would have changed the grill and rear tail panel to the RT black.
Good point, but why group them under "A" instead of "M"? 
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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Really? No FJ6? Okay!
Nope just those four colors. In my many travels I've seen GB5 (Floyd), EV2 (my car) and a 340 GY3 Challenger that came out of the Bay Area. Never seen an FC7 car but there has been a purple real rear bumper at Carlisle the past two years.
This was Tim Mordella's (69Mannix) old 71 340 auto Challenger R/T. Odd car with hood black out (only in avail in black) but with white stripe, black top, black interior. And luggage rack to boot.
IIRC, 1992-1993. Mach I is my brothers. Picture taken at Santa Monica Airport when Tim was working on a Chevy Truck commerical where they scrunched a truck and I think it popped back. Sorta like Chistine movie deal.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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They might have used those codes because it would have changed the grill and rear tail panel to the RT black.
Good point, but why group them under "A" instead of "M"?
I believe that most of the 'A' codes denoted a group of options and/or changes, whereas 'J', 'M' etc would be for a single option that did not require any other supporting equipment.
For the elastomerics on the R/T, the grille & tailpanel are already blacked out as standard equipment - the bumpers would be the only change, hence the 'M' code. Though given that left/right racing mirrors are usually part of an elastomeric package perhaps not having a group code is an oversight.
For the non-R/T versions, the 'A' code would trigger the substitution of R/T grille & tailpanel as well as the requisite blackouts on the car.
Some examples of 'A' codes:
A46 - SE moulding group. It is comprised of several individual 'M' moulding codes: front stone shield moulding, stainless belt moulding etc.
A04 - Basic group: Power steering, deluxe wheel covers, R11 Music Master AM radio, J25 variable speed wipers
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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On Barracudas the bumpers did not trigger any blackout, as the bumper did not have any black like the Challengers did. My 70 FK5 Barracuda had the front rubber bumper and chrome racing mirrors, argent grille and no tail panel chrome, and no tail panel blackout (body color). I also had a FE5 70 Cuda 340 with the Front/rear rubber bumpers and body colored mirrors, but it was a Cuda, so it had the tail panel blackout and trim.
When you work on Spaceships for a living, how bad can a workday be?
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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My 70 FK5 Barracuda had the front rubber bumper and chrome racing mirrors, argent grille and no tail panel chrome, and no tail panel blackout (body color).
I thought FK5 was not one of the colors available with A21?
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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On Barracudas the bumpers did not trigger any blackout, as the bumper did not have any black like the Challengers did. My 70 FK5 Barracuda had the front rubber bumper and chrome racing mirrors, argent grille and no tail panel chrome, and no tail panel blackout (body color). I also had a FE5 70 Cuda 340 with the Front/rear rubber bumpers and body colored mirrors, but it was a Cuda, so it had the tail panel blackout and trim.
Front rubber bumper only would not trigger any blackout (as the blackout would be only on the rear anyway)
Front/rear rubber bumpers definitely triggered rear blackout with the tail trim and I have seen many A22 '70 and '71 Barracudas so equipped.
Now as to how consistently Chrysler applied it - that's another issue entirely!
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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Barracudas had different paint color options than challengers and were also different availability between 70 and 71.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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Front/rear rubber bumpers definitely triggered rear blackout with the tail trim and I have seen many A22 '70 and '71 Barracudas so equipped.
So you're saying every Barracuda and Gran Coupe with A22 had the blackout?
That's kinda like an M46 Barracuda - they all had the blackout too.
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