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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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05/22/12 11:42 AM
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Another from Orange County area...
That tag is fake. For one M73 does not go on the tag. That car was also originally EL5 - it was color changed and the options added by Greg Bullenger(?) back in the 90s
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
[Re: Diego (not Ted)]
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05/22/12 12:10 PM
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So you're saying every Barracuda and Gran Coupe with A22 had the blackout?
That's kinda like an M46 Barracuda - they all had the blackout too.
At least for any Barracuda I've seen with A22. Per my earlier post I'm not sure if Gran Coupes kept the argent tail or if was superseded by blackout with A22.
Interestingly the M46 package does not seem to follow the same logic. Arguably, an 'M' code should be a standalone option such as the side scoops.
However, M46 on a Barracuda triggered lower body blackout, rear tail panel blackout, 3 piece tail panel trim, a pinstripe to separate the lower blackout from the body colour and black sprayed grille and valance insert.
Technically, it too should have had an 'A' code to capture those changes.
Even rear window louvers got an 'A' code, perhaps to capture the vinyl roof and racing mirrors.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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05/22/12 09:29 PM
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Another from Orange County area...
That tag is fake. For one M73 does not go on the tag. That car was also originally EL5 - it was color changed and the options added by Greg Bullenger(?) back in the 90s
I've heard that from Greg. But couldn't remember the exact details why. That's why I posted the tag again. Never seen five J codes in a row together.
Would be still a cool car in the less seen EL5, IMHO.
Cool car? Yes! IIRC it was actually a EL5 N96 car. From my discussion with Greg he hated Butterscotch and the car was missing the shaker so he built it to "how I wanted it to be".
I didn't know what to say.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
[Re: YYZ]
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05/22/12 09:32 PM
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So you're saying every Barracuda and Gran Coupe with A22 had the blackout?
That's kinda like an M46 Barracuda - they all had the blackout too.
At least for any Barracuda I've seen with A22. Per my earlier post I'm not sure if Gran Coupes kept the argent tail or if was superseded by blackout with A22.
Interestingly the M46 package does not seem to follow the same logic. Arguably, an 'M' code should be a standalone option such as the side scoops.
However, M46 on a Barracuda triggered lower body blackout, rear tail panel blackout, 3 piece tail panel trim, a pinstripe to separate the lower blackout from the body colour and black sprayed grille and valance insert.
Technically, it too should have had an 'A' code to capture those changes.
Even rear window louvers got an 'A' code, perhaps to capture the vinyl roof and racing mirrors.
YYZ all of your Challenger rubber stuff has been spot on 
However my theory on fender tags are they are there to tell you when to drill holes in the car for the most part.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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05/22/12 10:07 PM
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Cool car? Yes! IIRC it was actually a EL5 N96 car. From my discussion with Greg he hated Butterscotch and the car was missing the shaker so he built it to "how I wanted it to be".
I didn't know what to say.
Un-freaking-believable.
But...
The customer is always right.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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05/23/12 09:22 PM
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So you're saying every Barracuda and Gran Coupe with A22 had the blackout?
That's kinda like an M46 Barracuda - they all had the blackout too.
At least for any Barracuda I've seen with A22. Per my earlier post I'm not sure if Gran Coupes kept the argent tail or if was superseded by blackout with A22.
All 70 Gran Coupes with A22 have a silver, or astrotone rear panel, the astrotone it sprayed about half an inch under each rear aluninum quarter moulding and also to the top of the tail panel so that the lip of the decklid covers the top of it when down. Remember that the Gran Coupe medallion that covers the key hole has the silver or astrotone paint surrounding the outside of it, that is always that way, it is never black.
BTW, the black on an M46 tail panel is applied the same way as the astrotone on a gran coupe tail panel, it has the same three aluminum pieces to seperate the black from the body color as a Gran Coupe does. The black on a 'cuda is limited to the inside border of the four stainless tail panel pieces.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
[Re: alice]
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05/25/12 06:29 AM
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Another GB5 '71 383 R/T is in Ontario - front elastomeric only 
Original shaker car too....
(now with rear elastomeric and 440-6/4-speed power as well)
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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05/25/12 10:00 AM
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The topic of A22 Barracuda's (1970-71) came up before, I tried to search but maybe it was more than 3 years ago cause the search function cannot pull it up. really stinks cause that was an informative thread.
Anyway, in that long thread there was nobody who could produce a picture to "prove" that A22 Barracuda's (70-71) WITHOUT M46 got the blackout treatment.
Ola posted a pic of a brown 70 Barracuda convertible that seemed to fit the bill (had belt moldings and dual painted mirrors too per the factory announcement) but he said that he could not verify it was 100% factory and not a re-paint.
so I'd still love to see some photographic evidence (FWIW) of a 70-71 Barracuda with A22, no M46, and has the blackout treatment.
No worries Erik, the M46 option was not available with A22, only A21 or just regular plain old steel bumpers.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
[Re: YYZ]
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05/25/12 10:17 AM
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Another GB5 '71 383 R/T is in Ontario - front elastomeric only
Original shaker car too....
(now with rear elastomeric and 440-6/4-speed power as well)
Is that the one with M28 Hood Periphery molding added to it too? The dealer guides say no M28 with front rubber bumpers. Doesn't make visual sense to have M28 with rubber bumpers.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Elastomeric information???
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05/25/12 12:37 PM
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YYZ and m46rat, coming from you guys I definitely take your word on it.  tailpainel treatment would not be listed explicitly on a broadcast sheet right? what I mean by explicit is that that a BP or BS car would have it as part of the gc or cuda package but on a BH car it's not coded on the bcs or anywhere else if I got that right? pretty cool that you guys have seen this combo in person on a handful of cars.
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