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blue m/p voltage regulator install #1234210
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im putting one on my drag car. with dual field 1973 charger square back rebuilt alt. i know to run both fields to box, but can i run a sence wire for reg center terminal stud to coil + stud. so it charges soon as car fires up? how did you install yours? thanks aaron

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Re: blue m/p voltage regulator install [Re: hemigod426] #1234211
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Here is a wiring diagram

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i have no ballast(msd box) can i run 3rd wire from center post on reg right to msd coil+ ? im using the blue electric race reg. not the 1970 and newer pancake reg in your pic.

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Re: blue m/p voltage regulator install [Re: hemigod426] #1234213
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Sorry I thought you had 2 field wires so its easy to
use the newer race regulator
EDIT
I run a MSD also so your correct you dont run a ballast
so just eliminate that from the pic... it still goes
to a switched 12v... I just re wire my Rampage and
did all this

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Re: blue m/p voltage regulator install [Re: hemigod426] #1234214
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On a MSD set up the coil is fed from the MSD box and is more than 12 volts. Feed the regulator from the same source as the msd box small red(ign run input)



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Re: blue m/p voltage regulator install [Re: Just-a-dart] #1234215
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On a MSD set up the coil is fed from the MSD box and is more than 12 volts. Feed the regulator from the same source as the msd box small red(ign run input)




I agree... take it from any switched 12v source
dont rob the coil

Re: blue m/p voltage regulator install [Re: hemigod426] #1234216
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im putting one on my drag car. with dual field 1973 charger square back rebuilt alt. i know to run both fields to box, but can i run a sence wire for reg center terminal stud to coil + stud. so it charges soon as car fires up? how did you install yours? thanks aaron




If you are using that Alt then the drawing Mr-P put up is the better set up with the newer style regulator.

If you are using the older type reg and that 73 style alt you need to ground 1 field post and feed the other 1 from the regulator.

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Re: blue m/p voltage regulator install [Re: Just-a-dart] #1234217
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On a MSD set up the coil is fed from the MSD box and is more than 12 volts. Feed the regulator from the same source as the msd box small red(ign run input)


ok i can go from hot lug on on drag circut panel inside firewall to reg terminal,then both field terminal spades to regulator 3 wires,i thought sence wire turns on reg from draw not rob power? it sees draw goes into charge mode. does race reg still need case ground like pancake elec also?


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Re: blue m/p voltage regulator install [Re: hemigod426] #1234218
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On a MSD set up the coil is fed from the MSD box and is more than 12 volts. Feed the regulator from the same source as the msd box small red(ign run input)


ok i can go from hot lug on on drag circut panel inside firewall to reg terminal,then both field terminal spades to regulator 3 wires,i thought sence wire turns on reg from draw not rob power? it sees draw goes into charge mode. does race reg still need case ground like pancake elec also?




You LOST me now.... what regulator has 3 wires...
the old style has 1 wire and the new has 2 wires
EDIT
yes the regulator MUST be grounded... either style

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Re: blue m/p voltage regulator install [Re: hemigod426] #1234219
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What regulator are you using (pic?) mopar perf had 2 "race" both are blue



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On a MSD set up the coil is fed from the MSD box and is more than 12 volts. Feed the regulator from the same source as the msd box small red(ign run input)


ok i can go from hot lug on on drag circut panel inside firewall to reg terminal,then both field terminal spades to regulator 3 wires,i thought sence wire turns on reg from draw not rob power? it sees draw goes into charge mode. does race reg still need case ground like pancake elec also?




You LOST me now.... what regulator has 3 wires...
the old style has 1 wire and the new has 2 wires





im using p3690732 constant 13.5 volt race reg its electronic not mechanical,with 1973 dual field alt using both fields to box, look at reg diagram you split one wire from field to ballast for sence wire. im just gunna run a separate wire to sence draw and turn reg on,soon as car fires up.so thats 2 field wires alt to box and one sence wire 3 wires total.


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This one http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DCC-3690732/




yes thats the monster, was going to wire reg post to field, reg side wire to other field on alt, then sence wire from reg post to 12 volts somewhere for reg to see draw and,go into charge mode. and would give msd box and whole car 13.5 volts soon as fires instead of the 12.2-12.5 now.

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As I remember thats a replacement for the old regulator with new electronics.

(2)wires to the reg. 12volt+ input, (1) field wire output, ground the case(chassis)

If you are using that with a newer 2 field terminal ALT you will need to ground 1 field teminal on the ALT and run the other field terminal to the regulator field teminal.

The newer 72 up style REG works different field for ALT grounds thru the REG. They do not wire the same.

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This one http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DCC-3690732/




yes thats the monster, was going to wire reg post to field, reg side wire to other field on alt, then sence wire from reg post to 12 volts somewhere for reg to see draw and,go into charge mode. and would give msd box and whole car 13.5 volts soon as fires instead of the 12.2-12.5 now.


Not necessarily............mine would drop at idle to 12.5 volts that`s why I stepped up to a toyota pre runner 60 amp and got rid of that old stuff............WAY beter........13.0-13.5 at idle and 14.5-14.7 above 2000 rpm`s..............


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Re: blue m/p voltage regulator install [Re: hemigod426] #1234225
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This one http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DCC-3690732/




yes thats the monster, was going to wire reg post to field, reg side wire to other field on alt, then sence wire from reg post to 12 volts somewhere for reg to see draw and,go into charge mode. and would give msd box and whole car 13.5 volts soon as fires instead of the 12.2-12.5 now.




The regulator wont help a bit IF the voltage isnt
there to begin with.. the regulator takes care of the
top end of the voltage... as in when to shut it off...
if you want to increase the output you start with
a bigger alt(and some dont charge great at idle) OR
you increase the speed of the alt as in pulley size
but make sure you dont over rev the alt... you can
start spitting the epoxy and rotor wires off of it...
all alt have a MAX rpm for them... my buddy went through
this on his ford till I made him a new pulley size...
I run a Denso(production Chrysler alt) 85 amp on the
race car and the same one on my Rampage street/drag
car with the P3690731 race regulator... I havent put
a charger on that car in YEARS







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