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Re: Demon front end work
[Re: Moparnut426]
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04/30/12 07:24 PM
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JAKE68
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I dont understand what you want. A better feeling??? What is that? Explain more what your looking for so I can answer your question.
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Re: Demon front end work
[Re: JAKE68]
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04/30/12 07:47 PM
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Leon441
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Lower the rear about three inches.
Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
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Re: Demon front end work
[Re: VoodooCLD]
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05/01/12 12:13 AM
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Moparnut426
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OK, first off, I love how the car sits, so Im not dealing with that, and FEEL its pretty sloppy feeling, like theres a bunch of loose front end parts on the car. I would like to have a front end that works and feels like something thats not wore out.
I thought about going with adjustable upper control arms, and getting a steering box that has been rebuilt.
Wont a stiffer torsion bar make it transfer worse?
I was just asking if there was a kit, or a gathering of parts that will make it steer better, and be able to fully adjust my front end.
If I have to save up for an altercation, ore a magnum force front end, Ill do that, but if its not necessary ill just buy the parts to make it a better driving car.
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Re: Demon front end work
[Re: Leon441]
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05/01/12 12:22 AM
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Lower the rear about three inches.
 You can get weight transfer without having the rear end jacked up.
56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
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Re: Demon front end work
[Re: Moparnut426]
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05/01/12 12:29 AM
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MR_P_BODY
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OK, first off, I love how the car sits, so Im not dealing with that, and FEEL its pretty sloppy feeling, like theres a bunch of loose front end parts on the car. I would like to have a front end that works and feels like something thats not wore out.
I thought about going with adjustable upper control arms, and getting a steering box that has been rebuilt.
Wont a stiffer torsion bar make it transfer worse?
I was just asking if there was a kit, or a gathering of parts that will make it steer better, and be able to fully adjust my front end.
If I have to save up for an altercation, ore a magnum force front end, Ill do that, but if its not necessary ill just buy the parts to make it a better driving car.
It sure sounds like you want a road racer and a drag
car... not gonna happen... stiffer bars will knock
out some of the roll rate... I would also bet you
have a bad toe curve... if you put a sway bar on it
for the street and unhooked it for drag racing that
would help but you want a 94% street car
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Re: Demon front end work
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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05/01/12 02:43 AM
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Bad340fish
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Being all jacked up in the back will make it harder to get positive caster which will really help the road feel. If you lower the rear it will help roll the upper ball joint back to help with positve caster.
I am running rms upper arms and strut rods on my barracuda. It has 5* of positve caster and it drives like a dream on the street and track.
68 Barracuda Formula S 340
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Re: Demon front end work
[Re: Bad340fish]
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05/01/12 02:51 AM
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San Diego
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Being all jacked up in the back will make it harder to get positive caster which will really help the road feel. If you lower the rear it will help roll the upper ball joint back to help with positve caster.
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Re: Demon front end work
[Re: Moparnut426]
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05/01/12 05:37 AM
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It sounds to me like there's still some looseness that needs to be identified rather than shotgunning it and buying a bunch more parts.
Is the steering gear loose???
To much "toe-in" will make steering squirrely too.
R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04
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Re: Demon front end work
[Re: bigsbigelow]
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05/01/12 09:34 AM
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Moparnut426
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Front tires are skinny. I might need to rebuild the steering box, It is a little on the loose side, but not junk. The car has a set of SS springs, thats it, nothing more. Have a set of Calvert rear shocks, and I took the pinion snubber off. You guys are talking to me like I have a 80 vintage hot rod with sky, jackers, 5" shackles, and have my rearend painted white with red lights on the traction bars, NOT THE CASE HERE. We have a very old alignment rack here, I may have to take it to a friends shop who has a newer rack, like 20 years newer with better turning plates. I guess Ill have to get it up in the air and check for shot parts. I did take my swey bar off last year, and honestly havent felt a difference. Mr P I dont want a drag/course car, but I do want a car with a little better manners. 
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Re: Demon front end work
[Re: Moparnut426]
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05/01/12 10:56 AM
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Bad340fish
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The steering box might help but it won't do near as much as caster. My steering box is loooossseee and with all the positive caster it doesn't wander or anything.
What size tires do you have on the back? IMO it sits way high in the back but it's your taste and your car so no big deal. It might take an adjustable upper arm to help get the caster you need for it to drive well.
68 Barracuda Formula S 340
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Re: Demon front end work
[Re: bigsbigelow]
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05/01/12 11:35 AM
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Moparnut426
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The skinny fronts may be contributing to the loose feel. Try adjusting your steering box and get an alignment with at least some positive caster (zero caster will feel better than -.25 degrees). When I adjusted my steering box I ran the adjuster screw all the way in and then backed it out 1 turn. I was able to turn the adjuster in another quarter turn from there without losing steering return. The last time I aligned my car, the factory stuff went to the +1 degree I described. I have offset Moog UCA bushings and I am going to shoot for at least +2 degrees when I get the front re-built. I hop eyou get everything sorted out. BTW I LOVE YOUR DEMON. I have a pic of it as one of my desktop backgrounds.
Thanks BTW,
I know its higher than most like, I understand that, but I have had a 72 Duster that sat the same way and it steered better, I think the skinnies dont help as a few have said. If I could find a tire that fit the 3.5 rims that were a tad wider that would help.
I wish I could fine some 4.5 or 5" MT et wheels like I have but they dont make them.
Ill just have to bite the bullet and get some nice upper control arms, and get to adjusting. I plan on taking all the rubber front end parts off and replacing them with stuff from just suspension or firm feel.
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