Narrow down a pair of wheels.
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I have a pair of CCW Classics that I want to narrow down. Normally, this is as easy as calling up CCW and ordering a new inner barrel. however, the set of wheels I have were made before 1997, because they changed the design some in 1997 and their new parts won't work. so, my options are to A) order up a whole new set of rims of the new design at $2600, or cut down my fronts. I know of Weldcraft up in Michigan, they have good reviews across the automotive forum world. but I want to shop around anyway. maybe find a local business I can support without having to pay 2-way shipping. Who do you guys trust to cut a wheel in half, then weld it back together? 
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Re: Narrow down a pair of wheels.
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sounds promising/easier than I initially thought. However, this will NOT be a job I do myself. First off, I only have a wire feed mig set up for mild steel, and these wheels are aluminum. Second, I don't have a lathe or anything to squarely cut the wheel with. Third...I'd rather let someone who's done this before do it! 
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Re: Narrow down a pair of wheels.
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I just had some 20" outers narrowed down to 6" wide and had some 18" outers made into 5" wide at a local shop. Price was $175 per outer including polishing. Just as an example for you....thier work was top notch as well. Depending on the bolt pattern, you can also get 1 piece outers that use a bolt in center you know as well.. (so it makes a 2 piece wheel with a 3 piece center basically) You might find one of those that is the right back spacing and width for you perhaps ? I know another place who just started doing 2 piece outers and the 1 piece outer for 3 piece centers, but not sure what bolt pattern they are..  Come to think of it, the guy I use to CNC cut centers for me had some odd ball bolt pattern 1 piece outers for the 3 piece center laying around too.
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Re: Narrow down a pair of wheels.
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I just had some 20" outers narrowed down to 6" wide and had some 18" outers made into 5" wide at a local shop. Price was $175 per outer including polishing.
Just as an example for you....thier work was top notch as well.
Depending on the bolt pattern, you can also get 1 piece outers that use a bolt in center you know as well.. (so it makes a 2 piece wheel with a 3 piece center basically) You might find one of those that is the right back spacing and width for you perhaps ?
I know another place who just started doing 2 piece outers and the 1 piece outer for 3 piece centers, but not sure what bolt pattern they are..
Come to think of it, the guy I use to CNC cut centers for me had some odd ball bolt pattern 1 piece outers for the 3 piece center laying around too.
Interesting. I wonder what his cost is. my target is $200 a wheel to get what I want.
CCW is not willing to help out at all, they want big money to "custom make 2 pieces" I found a guy on a VW forum who builds/repairs name brand wheels, he said his supplier is the same as CCWs. They would make the older style rim shells with the 20-bolt pattern, but they need a minimum order of 30 pieces.
and since CCW isn't interested in ordering/stocking parts for their older wheels, I'm SOL on that route.
I hate the idea of cutting these wheels to get them narrower, but it is appearing to be my only option, short of selling them off and starting over. I'd be looking at $2600 to order new rims, then probably another grand for tires. Or, wait forever for another set to come up on a forum somewhere that works for me.
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Re: Narrow down a pair of wheels.
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depending on how they are measured (to the tire bead, or to the rim's lip) these are between 9.5 and 10" wide on the inners, 11.5 overall from bead to bead or 12.5 from lip to lip. looking to knock that down by 2" all on the inner side.
the center sections I have use a 20-bolt pattern, I believe the same size as the 16s that CCW still makes, they just don't offer the 17" shells that fit these center pieces.
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Re: Narrow down a pair of wheels.
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mine is the 20 bolt (duh!) but these are both CCW Classics, 17" diameter rim. the smaller tire is a 315/35/17, my buddies is a 345/?/17 drag radial.
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Re: Narrow down a pair of wheels.
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Much obliged! the cheaper the better! like I said, not looking to spend a mint on custom one off parts. Weldcraft already quoted me $200 ea to cut them down and weld them back together. so that's pretty much my bottom line
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Re: Narrow down a pair of wheels.
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How much do you want them narrowed? around 2 inches? I would personally go the weldcraft route. Lots of happy campers. But have you called around to any fabrication shops in sspecific? I have a lot around here and a place like that is likely going to have the equipment to easily handle a section and reweld. 
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