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Question about Harland Sharp BB rockers #1218856
04/19/12 08:24 PM
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After my problems with comps rockers I have decided to switch to Harland Sharps.

My question is the website says you might have to restrict the oil flow to the heads with these rockers. I was wondering how much to restrict and how you were doing it.


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Re: Question about Harland Sharp BB rockers [Re: A70Runner] #1218857
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Most guys tap the oil feeds on the block deck and then install set screws drilled for a .060 opening.

If you don't want to pull the heads you could do the math and calculate what size rod you'd need to place in that oil passage to give you roughly the same restriction.

Re: Question about Harland Sharp BB rockers [Re: A70Runner] #1218858
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After my problems with comps rockers I have decided to switch to Harland Sharps.

My question is the website says you might have to restrict the oil flow to the heads with these rockers. I was wondering how much to restrict and how you were doing it.


Thanks!


Two questions, which heads are you using now and if not Indy heads did you have the cam modified to oil the rockers full time?


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Re: Question about Harland Sharp BB rockers [Re: A70Runner] #1218859
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Need a little more info on set up and intended useage and parts in the engine.

I stock and sell Harland Sharp, let me know.


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Re: Question about Harland Sharp BB rockers [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1218860
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Specs
496 Using Muscle Motors kit. Should be little north of 10-1 Compression
Edelbrock head CNC ported by Modern Cylinder heads. Flow 328int/268ex.
Solid Roller cam by Straighline
Spring Pressures 250 closed 650 open
Intake .645 Duration 300 Centerline@108
Ex. .626 Duration 314 Centerline @116

Intake is a ported Holley SD to clear my hood on my RR. Also going to try a M1 on the dyno
950 Demon for a carb.


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Re: Question about Harland Sharp BB rockers [Re: A70Runner] #1218861
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Specs
496 Using Muscle Motors kit. Should be little north of 10-1 Compression
Edelbrock head CNC ported by Modern Cylinder heads. Flow 328int/268ex.
Solid Roller cam by Straighline
Spring Pressures 250 closed 650 open
Intake .645 Duration 300 [Email]Centerline@108[/Email]
Ex. .626 Duration 314 Centerline @116

Intake is a ported Holley SD to clear my hood on my RR. Also going to try a M1 on the dyno
950 Demon for a carb.


I'm not familar with that brand of cams, do you know if they groove the number four cam journal so it will oil the rocker shafts full time? If so you may need to restrict the oil feed to the shafts, I like and use .040 restrictors on my engines with roller rockers, Harland Sharps and T&D single shaft sytems now


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Re: Question about Harland Sharp BB rockers [Re: Cab_Burge] #1218862
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I'm not familar with that brand of cams, do you know if they groove the number four cam journal so it will oil the rocker shafts full time? If so you may need to restrict the oil feed to the shafts, I like and use .040 restrictors on my engines with roller rockers, Harland Sharps and T&D single shaft sytems now




I don't think its been modified. We had to spin the engine over with a socket when we drill primed it to get oil to the rockers.


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Re: Question about Harland Sharp BB rockers [Re: A70Runner] #1218863
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i don't restrict the oil to the heads when using edelbrock heads and HS rockers. setting up the side play per their instructions is helpful. having a little more oil up top to help cool the springs can be a good thing as long as your running a larger than 4 quart stock pan.


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Re: Question about Harland Sharp BB rockers [Re: Performance Only] #1218864
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i don't restrict the oil to the heads when using edelbrock heads and HS rockers. setting up the side play per their instructions is helpful. having a little more oil up top to help cool the springs can be a good thing as long as your running a larger than 4 quart stock pan.



On stock iron heads and Edelbrock heads w/ Harland Sharp rockers I never restricted oil to them. With Indy SR heads it needed .060" restrictors in the oil lines. Without them it flooded the topend real quick w/ oil.


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Re: Question about Harland Sharp BB rockers [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1218865
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setting up the side play per their instructions




Speaking of which ... Can you tell me what those instructions say (the key points) ... I seem to have lost mine over the years.

Thanks,

Re: Question about Harland Sharp BB rockers [Re: A70Runner] #1218866
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I'm not familar with that brand of cams, do you know if they groove the number four cam journal so it will oil the rocker shafts full time? If so you may need to restrict the oil feed to the shafts, I like and use .040 restrictors on my engines with roller rockers, Harland Sharps and T&D single shaft sytems now




I don't think its been modified. We had to spin the engine over with a socket when we drill primed it to get oil to the rockers.


If it isn't oiling the rockers full time don't restrict the oil flow I'm going to cut the top out of a stock rocker cover to watch how much oil flows on my motors that have the full time oiling and on one that doesn't to see how much differences there are in the oil flow, maybe video it and post them. On the motors that oil full time with Indy heads or Eddy heads with single shaft roller rockers I've seen a lot more oil under the rocker covers at the dyno shop when it was time to set the valves than I consider normal, a lot more oil That is why I use the restrictors on motors that oil the roller rockers full time


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Re: Question about Harland Sharp BB rockers [Re: Cab_Burge] #1218867
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on a factory head you can restrict the oil with a pill like insert that fits in the passage in the rocker stand to restrict oil under the rocker shaft.you would need a small aluminum rod,.060 drill and after you drill the rod cut it to fit.


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Re: Question about Harland Sharp BB rockers [Re: A70Runner] #1218868
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No restrictions here on my RPM`s but I do tighten up the side clearances to about .010-012.................not sure if I need to but after 7+ years all`s well.


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Re: Question about Harland Sharp BB rockers [Re: Thumperdart] #1218869
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