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painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? #1218757 04/19/12 06:14 PM 04/19/12 06:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,846 poplar bluff mo. T toplescuda OP I Whine
toplescuda OP I Whine T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,846 poplar bluff mo.	The 71 charger is going to the body shop so gotvto strip the car down the 440 is coming out to have compartment soda blasted what would be easyier to inatal? with tranny/bellhousing left in? Or yank both out as unit install as a unit? or yank both as a unit install the 440 with bellhousing/clutch then later the 4 speed? 1970 barracuda convert. 1 of 59 1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink) 1971 charger 2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red 2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: toplescuda] #1218758 04/19/12 06:31 PM 04/19/12 06:31 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,871 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,871 Ontario, Canada	yank it all!

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: toplescuda] #1218759 04/19/12 06:32 PM 04/19/12 06:32 PM
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elitecustombody pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,572 Jacksonville Florida	Do it right and pull it all before blasting and painting

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: elitecustombody] #1218760 04/19/12 07:49 PM 04/19/12 07:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,846 poplar bluff mo. T toplescuda OP I Whine
toplescuda OP I Whine T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,846 poplar bluff mo.	What about install? Motor tranny togeather or motor then tranny or tranny them motor? 440 will be going in from top 1970 barracuda convert. 1 of 59 1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink) 1971 charger 2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red 2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: toplescuda] #1218761 04/19/12 08:56 PM 04/19/12 08:56 PM
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bboogieart master B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,886 Lost and Spaced	It all depends on what you are comfortable with and if you have help, to guide the whole thing in. I do it by myself and always put the tranny in first. However I have only done automatics. Might be easier to install clutch and bell before and then just hoist up the 4 speed. My belief is less chance to scratch your new paint, with a shorter assembly.. I have mechanical Aptitude. I can screw up anything.

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: bboogieart] #1218762 04/19/12 09:11 PM 04/19/12 09:11 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,871 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,871 Ontario, Canada	With a 4-speed you have 2 options ... install as an assembly (my preferred method) OR install the engine and bell first then curse and swear as you try to install the tranny later. I think a lot depends on your shop setup. Installing the tranny is certainly a lot easier if you have a hoist.

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: Stanton] #1218763 04/19/12 09:23 PM 04/19/12 09:23 PM
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bobs66440 top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	We just pulled the engine and trans from mine all as one unit. I used a screw type load leveler and it came out real easy.

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: Stanton] #1218764 04/19/12 09:39 PM 04/19/12 09:39 PM
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dustergirl340 Chicken Little Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 22,873 Chicken coop	Quote: With a 4-speed you have 2 options ... install as an assembly (my preferred method) OR install the engine and bell first then curse and swear as you try to install the tranny later. ^^^ Agreed. Automatics are so much easier.

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: dustergirl340] #1218765 04/19/12 09:51 PM 04/19/12 09:51 PM
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toplescuda OP I Whine T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,846 poplar bluff mo.	Getting it out is no problem getting it back in with out scratching is my concern i put the 340/auto in my pro street car that wasnt bad that being said 440/stick is a differn beast 1970 barracuda convert. 1 of 59 1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink) 1971 charger 2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red 2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: toplescuda] #1218766 04/19/12 11:17 PM 04/19/12 11:17 PM
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HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	whats wrong with putting it all in from the bottom? Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: HealthServices] #1218767 04/19/12 11:21 PM 04/19/12 11:21 PM
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bboogieart master B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,886 Lost and Spaced	Quote: whats wrong with putting it all in from the bottom? For some reason I never concider that, but it's probably the best bet in this case. I have mechanical Aptitude. I can screw up anything.

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: toplescuda] #1218768 04/19/12 11:21 PM 04/19/12 11:21 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 top fuel
bobs66440 top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	Quote: Getting it out is no problem getting it back in with out scratching is my concern i put the 340/auto in my pro street car that wasnt bad that being said 440/stick is a differn beast As long as you're careful and cover everything, it shouldn't be a concern. The load leveler really is the key. I wouldn't attempt it without it.

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: HealthServices] #1218769 04/19/12 11:22 PM 04/19/12 11:22 PM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: whats wrong with putting it all in from the bottom? So easy a caveman could do it, without scratching anything..... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1218770 04/19/12 11:32 PM 04/19/12 11:32 PM
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elitecustombody pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,572 Jacksonville Florida	Quote: Quote: whats wrong with putting it all in from the bottom? So easy a caveman could do it, without scratching anything..... You're not kidding,it's a piece of cake.

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1218771 04/19/12 11:32 PM 04/19/12 11:32 PM
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toplescuda OP I Whine T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,846 poplar bluff mo.	Im not wanting to dissassemble the whole front susp. Dont have a means of moving the susp,motor,tranny under the car so in from the top it will be 1970 barracuda convert. 1 of 59 1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink) 1971 charger 2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red 2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: toplescuda] #1218772 04/20/12 01:44 AM 04/20/12 01:44 AM
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DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	Quote: Im not wanting to dissassemble the whole front susp. Dont have a means of moving the susp,motor,tranny under the car so in from the top it will be Why send it to the soda blaster with the front suspension still hanging on it? I unbolted my k-frame, picked the car up with the cherry picker and put it up on jack stands real high. Then rolled the engine/trans/suspension out the front(was easy with the tires still on it). Took a couple of 2x4's, drilled some holes and bolted them onto the car where the k-frame bolted up originally and bolted some large casters to the 2x4's to make moving the car around easy. Makes working on everything so much easier when it's out.

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1218773 04/20/12 06:16 AM 04/20/12 06:16 AM
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lady426 member L Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 12 missouri poplar bluff	Ralph here on angies comp. Im taking to blaster cause car color is getting changed sence paying for the paint job by the hour will be money ahead to pay the 100.00 hour for the soda blasting to have them do under the hood inside trunk and door jambs insted of paying the paint shop by the hour to sand all them areas i think i will drop the 440in from top then install the 4 speed from under the car 1974 rallye challenger plum crazy with a 426 dual plug hemi

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: toplescuda] #1218774 04/22/12 02:02 PM 04/22/12 02:02 PM
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frank top fuel F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,138 tucson az	I just did this in my GTX. The engine would be easier to install without the trans or bellhousing. I installed the clutch and pressure plate on the engine prior to install and it was a tight fit. If I had to do it again I would install the engine only then the rest from under the car. Best way(except from underneith) to avoid damaging the paint. Keep in mind this was done in my garage with no help. My trans was a PITA to get in from under the car though.

Re: painting car.. remove motor/4speed or just motor? [Re: frank] #1218775 04/22/12 09:47 PM 04/22/12 09:47 PM
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codfish master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,247 Newfoundland	I put my bigblock (RB) and 727 in as a unit, by myself, in my freshly painted Dart. No scratches or engine leveller either. Make sure the rear of the car is as high as you can safely get it, and the front as low as you can get it. Just helps with angles. codfish Last edited by codfish; 04/22/12 10:52 PM.

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