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"fixing" aluminum wheels...pits/scratches #1218373
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I have a feeling I already know the answer to this one, but wanted to hear what you guys would do or have done.

I just got some new wheels for my truck, they're forged aluminum...launching me into the world of turning my hands black with polish, trying to keep them looking good.

these wheels have had some neglect over the years by the prior owner, he used them on the track with his Viper, and they were his "track wheels" i.e. not for show, and thus, looks were not important.

the wheels look pretty good overall, but there are some pits, "bumps" or "specs" of corrosion, and some nicks here and there, that are going to have to be sanded out I believe.

so, CAN they be sanded out like fixing imperfections in clear coat? are there any tricks to fixing them? what grit should I start with and finish with?

any good buffers to use on a wheel? I've seen the "miracle ball" infomercials...are those really that great?

what buffing cream/compound should I use after sanding?


what have you done? pics of before/after?


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Re: "fixing" aluminum wheels...pits/scratches [Re: 70Cuda383] #1218374
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Re: "fixing" aluminum wheels...pits/scratches [Re: 70Cuda383] #1218375
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On my 20's I used 1200 grit. LOTS of elbow grease, repeat the sanding etc., then hours of polishing. ALL this depends on the depth of the pits/scratches.


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Re: "fixing" aluminum wheels...pits/scratches [Re: DARTH V8Я] #1218376
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FWIW, I had real good luck with Mother's aluminum polish and a Powerball on my Weld wheels. They were corroded and water spotted badly. Made them shine like a diamond in a goat's azz.


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Re: "fixing" aluminum wheels...pits/scratches [Re: slantzilla] #1218377
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I've used standard rubbing compound on natural aluminum followed by Mothers followed by wax with good results on very minor blemishes. If they are deeper, you could sand + polish, but I'd be a little concerned about weakening the wheel.

Another option is to paint them. Clean/degrease, scuff, fill meaningful pits/scratches with good filler like aluminum bondo, etch primer or epoxy, surfacing primer (optional)and base/clear. It is some work and expense but would reduce maintenance and polishing down the road.

Re: "fixing" aluminum wheels...pits/scratches [Re: ahy] #1218378
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I've used standard rubbing compound on natural aluminum followed by Mothers followed by wax with good results on very minor blemishes. If they are deeper, you could sand + polish, but I'd be a little concerned about weakening the wheel.

Weakening the wheel? You are kidding. I've restored many sets. What ever sanding it takes to get the marks out. Some will never come out ,but most will. I 've started with 80 grit more than once. Including my last set.
Doug

Another option is to paint them. Clean/degrease, scuff, fill meaningful pits/scratches with good filler like aluminum bondo, etch primer or epoxy, surfacing primer (optional)and base/clear. It is some work and expense but would reduce maintenance and polishing down the road.



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Re: "fixing" aluminum wheels...pits/scratches [Re: dvw] #1218379
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I've used standard rubbing compound on natural aluminum followed by Mothers followed by wax with good results on very minor blemishes. If they are deeper, you could sand + polish, but I'd be a little concerned about weakening the wheel.


Another option is to paint them. Clean/degrease, scuff, fill meaningful pits/scratches with good filler like aluminum bondo, etch primer or epoxy, surfacing primer (optional)and base/clear. It is some work and expense but would reduce maintenance and polishing down the road.





Weakening the wheel? You are kidding. I've restored many sets. What ever sanding it takes to get the marks out. Some will never come out ,but most will. I 've started with 80 grit more than once. Including my last set.
Doug





80 grit!? I don't know that I have the courage to attack these wheels with 80 grit! I may just focus on some of the smaller imperfections and just smooth out the bigger chips/gouges.


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Re: "fixing" aluminum wheels...pits/scratches [Re: 70Cuda383] #1218380
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A wool or cotton buffing pad will do wonders, way better than a foam ball, for sure.

I bet I could get all but the deepest scratches out with just a good buffing.
This is what I use, I do entire tank trucks and 49' trailers. It'll do a wheel in minutes not hours.

I do work trucks all the time that are off road with deep gouges, the gouges don't come out but they polish great.

This was a quickie(3-5 minute polish job)

Use my pressure washer to get the tire clean.

A 4 minute job with wool buffer.Before.

Paste applied with a paint brush.


Re: "fixing" aluminum wheels...pits/scratches [Re: Challenger 1] #1218381
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Now my toterhome has even more bright to be polished.

I usually polish when changing tires if I have time.



Re: "fixing" aluminum wheels...pits/scratches [Re: 70Cuda383] #1218382
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I had a set of Chrysler 5 spokes, like from a Mirada, that were baddly pitted from wheel weights. I traced the bolt pattern onto a threaded pipe flange and made myself a jig. I then placed the flange on a section of 2" pipe and put in into the pipe threader. I sharpened the ends of old files and slowly, carefuly, turned out all the blems. Then I sanded with progressivly finer grits till they looked new. When finished the wheels looked like aluminum magnums. (I painted the smaller spokes black) It doesn't look like your wheels are that bad and they look sweet on the truck by the way. Good luck.

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A wool or cotton buffing pad will do wonders, way better than a foam ball, for sure.

I bet I could get all but the deepest scratches out with just a good buffing.
This is what I use, I do entire tank trucks and 49' trailers. It'll do a wheel in minutes not hours.

I do work trucks all the time that are off road with deep gouges, the gouges don't come out but they polish great.

This was a quickie(3-5 minute polish job)

Use my pressure washer to get the tire clean.

A 4 minute job with wool buffer.Before.

Paste applied with a paint brush.






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Re: "fixing" aluminum wheels...pits/scratches [Re: hemi-itis] #1218384
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Yes it's not a job you do and stay clean, nope.
I'll buff with buffer and then use a orbital polisher with a cotten cover to remove the swirl marks on large surfaces.

Re: "fixing" aluminum wheels...pits/scratches [Re: Challenger 1] #1218385
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where would a newbie like myself get a cotton buffing pad for an 18v drill? I don't know that an 8" buffer is what I need on the wheels... seems like it'd be too hard to get into the nooks and crannies of these CCW classics they're only 17" rims.

Is eastwoods the best place to go? Id like to find a local source and hold it in my hands first, plus avoid shipping, and give myself the instant gratification of having it immediately after paying vs waiting 3 or 4 days for shipping. but I already know that the parts stores in town only have the "snake oil" miracle ball foam pad things. haven't seen much in the way of polishing tools at the home repair stores either.

I'll see if I can get some good pics of the minor imperfections I'm talking about. hopefully once I have them done once, I can resort to once or twice a year with the creams and rags to touch them up


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where would a newbie like myself get a cotton buffing pad for an 18v drill? I don't know that an 8" buffer is what I need on the wheels... seems like it'd be too hard to get into the nooks and crannies of these CCW classics they're only 17" rims.

Is eastwoods the best place to go? Id like to find a local source and hold it in my hands first, plus avoid shipping, and give myself the instant gratification of having it immediately after paying vs waiting 3 or 4 days for shipping. but I already know that the parts stores in town only have the "snake oil" miracle ball foam pad things. haven't seen much in the way of polishing tools at the home repair stores either.

I'll see if I can get some good pics of the minor imperfections I'm talking about. hopefully once I have them done once, I can resort to once or twice a year with the creams and rags to touch them up




The wool buffing pads come from your local auto paint store. YOU HAVE A POLISHING MACHINE, don't you? I saw you buffed out the paint on your truck.

Those 3" cotten buffs came from Eastwood. I bought a case of 4 of those quart cans of polish, (which btw is the best I've ever used) they threw in 4 steel arbors and 4 buffing wheels for free! This was about 2 years ago and I'm down to my last can of that stuff and am ready to order more.
I found Eastwood the easiest and best price to get the polish from in big quanities, most places that sell it in tubes don't even know it comes in cans. I bought it a few time from Performance Hardware right around the corner from Indy, what's it called now? the rack track...? Oreillys something... .

Didn't expect the cotten buffs at all, I got by for years without them, just the wool buffer, but they have there place and work good.

The big buffer allows me to get really agressive to get scratches out which you can't do with foam or smaller buffs, imo.

Got a Grainger nearby? I bet they handle them?

Re: "fixing" aluminum wheels...pits/scratches [Re: 70Cuda383] #1218387
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You might just check if there is a local wheel polishing place near you as well.

I use one out here to polish all of my new/raw aluminum wheel outers, new centers, along with polishing used stuff as well. They get them to a mirror finish (even from raw aluminum out of the CNC machine or wheel outer roller) and price is only $10 - $20 each.

Same place does intake manifolds and valve covers for Edelbrock...kinda cool to see pallets and pallets of intake manifolds there

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The wool buffing pads come from your local auto paint store. YOU HAVE A POLISHING MACHINE, don't you? I saw you buffed out the paint on your truck.






Right, I do. but I didn't think it was small enough to do a good job on the wheels. I might be wrong though.


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I'm not saying it's perfect for your wheels, but it would do 90% and then some may need to be done by hand or by a smaller buff.







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