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Fender tags #1217513
04/17/12 01:45 PM
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I own a 1971 Demon340, that I have owned since new
and have raced since 1978.
Over the years the fender tags have been misplaced.
Does anyone replicate fender tags.
I still race but I would like to restore the car the best I can.
It is currently a NHRA stocker.
Thank you for your help.
Jamie

Re: Fender tags [Re: Jamie340] #1217514
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Do you have the info that is supposed to be on it ?


Re: Fender tags [Re: JohnRR] #1217515
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Yes, I do have that infomation.

Re: Fender tags [Re: Jamie340] #1217516
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Your choice


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www.datatags.com (tags backeast)

Re: Fender tags [Re: Jamie340] #1217517
04/17/12 06:44 PM
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Does anyone replicate fender tags.




Replicate? Yes.
Accurately? Usually not.

If you'd like, I can show you an inaccurate tag made by datatags for a previous owner.

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1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs.
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Re: Fender tags [Re: DAYCLONA] #1217518
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Thank you, I appreciate the lead.

Re: Fender tags [Re: DAYCLONA] #1217519
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Your choice


www.trimtags.com

www.datatags.com (tags backeast)




Also the Marti report people do tags

Re: Fender tags [Re: 69CoronetRT] #1217520
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Does anyone replicate fender tags.




Replicate? Yes.
Accurately? Usually not.

If you'd like, I can show you an inaccurate tag made by datatags for a previous owner.





Re: Fender tags [Re: DAYCLONA] #1217521
04/17/12 10:05 PM
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Your choice


www.datatags.com (tags backeast)




tags backeast???
They are 2 miles from my house in Colorado


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Re: Fender tags [Re: moparmarks] #1217522
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please post the comparison of the original vs the inaccurate repro.

Re: Fender tags [Re: MoparABE] #1217523
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please post the comparison of the original vs the inaccurate repro.




yes please do so the fraud can be made less noticable ...

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Re: Fender tags [Re: MoparABE] #1217525
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please post the comparison of the original vs the inaccurate repro.




ummm If I had the original, why would I need an inaccurate repo?


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1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs.
Over 2,000 thanks to you!
Re: Fender tags [Re: 69CoronetRT] #1217526
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Repop tags suck and there are many ways to spot them, and yes places will make them with a simple note book paper filled with options and a like tag for code placement. Thats how mine came to be...from the previous owner.

Its a sad day when one gets a repop tag for a car 99.9% wouldnt do. I did because I simply asked if the car had a FT and was told yes. Didnt think to ask if it was fake.

Besides code placement, ect....alot of the tags can be spotted by the blank alone and many fakes show shadows fromt the stamping of the codes to the sheer used to cut the tag, crap stock and a simple sheer will leave the end turned down a hair and makes a shadow and even the codes where stamped show that on the back of the tag it was done in two rows at a time for six rows.

Many have trouble getting the ribbed lip on the top and bottom right, let alone spaced the proper distance apart.

If you have 5 like tags from the same plant all blasted and in good shape on a gem scale they are very close a repop not done on a mopar core would a good bit off.

The thin tags are super easy to spot, the ones on a mopar core tag are still semi easy...and this is just some obvious stuff in addition to the botched codes, placement, and options during that time of build....

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Re: Fender tags [Re: A57_RT ] #1217527
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Fake on bottom...

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Re: Fender tags [Re: A57_RT ] #1217528
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Easy to spot this fake....look at the wrong width...

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Re: Fender tags [Re: A57_RT ] #1217529
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I bought the car on the web (here) so I never saw this tag until it arrived, but thats not the issue, there are so so many ways to spot a fake tag that unless imo the maker has spent alot of $$$$ on setup and is skilled on the codes/dates, ect..and other things it can still be spoted.

I also know of a chemical test if the tags are blasted.

The fake tag I got with the car will never go on the car, Id rather hjave a tagless car then a fake tag car

Re: Fender tags [Re: A57_RT ] #1217530
04/18/12 04:35 AM
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some might shoot me down for this but i believe if the original fender tag is gone due to rust or missing or whatever it should be illegal for anyone to reproduce one as a replacement-correct or incorrect-it shouldn`t be done - period - buildsheet or no buildsheet -don`t reproduce any tag-ever. i was talking to someone who restores corvettes last week and he said as part of the restoration process if you haven`t got the original engine just find a dated correct engine and stamp it with the correct numbers-it`s just part of restoring a car back to as it left the factory. i couldn`t believe it!!! bottom line is buyer beware but things are getting out of hand-legit cars with no buildsheet but numbers engines and trans and body stampings can get a repo tag with more options than it left the factory with.
anyway-i`ve had my gripe-if the car is missing the tag-why would a repo help any situation?
all the best
frank

Re: Fender tags #1217531
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yes please do so the fraud can be made less noticable ...




Very commendable for you to automatically assume fraud. You might consider withholding judgement of others that is based on your personal characteristics. If he does provide a photo however, could you then please post a picture of your car? You do have a collector Mopar vehicle........don't you? By all means, please share the restoration results which illustrate and exemplify the tremendous knowledge you constantly express on this forum.





Very well said.

And as with all fender tag questions::

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Re: Fender tags [Re: A57_RT ] #1217532
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Id rather have a tagless car then a fake tag car



Kinda how I feel too.


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