Question on electrolysis - Moparts Forums

Register Log In Moparts Forums Moparts Question and Answer Question on electrolysis

Print Thread

Question on electrolysis #1216843 04/16/12 09:54 AM 04/16/12 09:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,911 Athens, Greece Pyper70 OP master
Pyper70 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,911 Athens, Greece	I have the sacrificial anodes but I am trying to figure out where to install them. I can probably pull a plug from the engine block and install an anode there but if I ever have to replace it or check it, it will be a PITA to get to. I can put it at the bottom of the radiator but again, I won't be able to see if its time to replace it. I see that they make a radiator cap which acts as a sacrificial anode. Any ideas where I could put the anodes or should I get this radiator cap? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sacrificial-Anod...#ht_3427wt_1163 Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: Pyper70] #1216844 04/16/12 10:10 AM 04/16/12 10:10 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,095 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,095 A Banana Republic near you.	There are 2 water drains on the side of the block .. 1/4 NPT , put one in each and get the cap .

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: JohnRR] #1216845 04/16/12 10:21 AM 04/16/12 10:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,911 Athens, Greece Pyper70 OP master
Pyper70 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,911 Athens, Greece	Thanks John....How long you think the anode's will last? Will I get 10 years out of them? Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: Pyper70] #1216846 04/16/12 10:36 AM 04/16/12 10:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,095 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,095 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: Thanks John....How long you think the anode's will last? Will I get 10 years out of them? That I can't answer but I doubt 10. I replaced them every year in my boat , probably could have gone 2 ...

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: JohnRR] #1216847 04/16/12 10:39 AM 04/16/12 10:39 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,911 Athens, Greece Pyper70 OP master
Pyper70 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,911 Athens, Greece	Ouch....I only get 500-1000 miles per year...Hopefully I can something better. Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: Pyper70] #1216848 04/16/12 11:20 AM 04/16/12 11:20 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,911 Athens, Greece Pyper70 OP master
Pyper70 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,911 Athens, Greece	I looked at my spare block and the two spots you mentioned barely have any room behind them. I can probably fit one finger between the block and the cylinder wall. I did find another spot if it would work right...The rear of the block where the cam bearing is has enough room for a 2" anode and has 1/8 NPT, usually the sensor for the water temp goes here. I have mine in there but I depend on my Autometer gauge from the water pump. Being that this position is between the two cylinder heads...would it work better? I plan on buying the radiator cap anode as well. Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: Pyper70] #1216849 04/16/12 12:00 PM 04/16/12 12:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,095 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,095 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: I looked at my spare block and the two spots you mentioned barely have any room behind them. I can probably fit one finger between the block and the cylinder wall. I did find another spot if it would work right...The rear of the block where the cam bearing is has enough room for a 2" anode and has 1/8 NPT, usually the sensor for the water temp goes here. I have mine in there but I depend on my Autometer gauge from the water pump. Being that this position is between the two cylinder heads...would it work better? I plan on buying the radiator cap anode as well. Didn't realize it was that tight at those points ? The REAR of the block next to the came bearings ? The only NPT ports back there are the main oil galleys , you can't use those . I guess you could use the spare ports in the water pump housing . Why are you installing these ?

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: JohnRR] #1216850 04/16/12 01:38 PM 04/16/12 01:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,911 Athens, Greece Pyper70 OP master
Pyper70 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,911 Athens, Greece	Quote: The REAR of the block next to the came bearings ? The only NPT ports back there are the main oil galleys , you can't use those . I guess you could use the spare ports in the water pump housing . Why are you installing these ? Not exactly at the rear inside the bell housing...Above where the water temp sending unit is. It looks like a bell. As to why...Installing Eddy Heads and an aluminum water pump & housing....Something has to be eaten over time and I prefer to have a sacrificial lamb in the system 7167211-Rear505.jpg (16 downloads) Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: Pyper70] #1216851 04/16/12 02:41 PM 04/16/12 02:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,095 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,095 A Banana Republic near you.	Good thinking I guess , use the cap , I have never seen a sacrifical anode stuck in anything other than boats by an OEM ... That's not water , that's were the OIL pressure sensor screws in , the other plug is oil also .

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: JohnRR] #1216852 04/16/12 02:53 PM 04/16/12 02:53 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	Quote: Good thinking I guess , use the cap , I have never seen a sacrifical anode stuck in anything other than boats by an OEM ... That's not water , that's were the OIL pressure sensor screws in , the other plug is oil also . yup. if you think that's a water jacket, then leave a plug out of it, remove your distributor, and spin the oil pump shaft with a drill. let me know how long it takes you to change your mind about that being a water jacket and yea, that port (either one really) is where the oil pressure sending unit goes. I've only seen factory water temp sensors in the water pump housing on big blocks, and in the intake manifold cross over by the thermostat on small blocks Photobucket sucks

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: 70Cuda383] #1216853 04/16/12 03:18 PM 04/16/12 03:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,911 Athens, Greece Pyper70 OP master
Pyper70 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,911 Athens, Greece	Uhh....Brain fart? OOPS! I honestly thought that was the water temp sending unit...Geez I am gettin old...I haven't touched my engine in like...a year... Guess its going to be just a Rad Cap then and I'll keep replacing that when it goes south. Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: Pyper70] #1216854 04/16/12 05:14 PM 04/16/12 05:14 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,274 Ontario.Canada C can.al pro stock
can.al pro stock C Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,274 Ontario.Canada	..i read that a voltage test between your neg bat terminal and coolant(carefully insert your meter pos lead in coolant only) less than .1 volt and your o.k.(vehicle running w/some elec load) .should not use the ground on the rad if alum.

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: can.al] #1216855 04/16/12 05:43 PM 04/16/12 05:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,911 Athens, Greece Pyper70 OP master
Pyper70 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,911 Athens, Greece	Quote: ..i read that a voltage test between your neg bat terminal and coolant(carefully insert your meter pos lead in coolant only) less than .1 volt and your o.k.(vehicle running w/some elec load) .should not use the ground on the rad if alum. Never heard of that...be interesting to try....My radiator isn't aluminum. Just the stock 4-row radiator Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: Pyper70] #1216856 04/16/12 05:56 PM 04/16/12 05:56 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,713 A Andrewh master
Andrewh master A Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,713	that tests shows you if you have conductivity in your coolant. dissimilar metals in a current carrying conductor cause corrosion. if your coolant is new/clean and you used di water to fill it, then it won't carry a current, and it minimizes the corrosion or prevents it. as soon as you get build up in the coolant and it will carry a charge, you start eating something. I put mine in the block, but in a sm, so not sure how much room you have compared to me. I had to cut the zinc so it would fit, so about half the size of what I bought. have not checked it yet. been about 2 maybe 3 years since I put it in. need to drain and refil this year and will check it then.

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: Andrewh] #1216857 04/16/12 06:14 PM 04/16/12 06:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,610 Not2farfromNashville, TN R Rug_Trucker I Live Here
Rug_Trucker I Live Here R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,610 Not2farfromNashville, TN	360 in my van has an aluminum water pump, and intake. No problems in over 150K. "The only thing to do for triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" "NUNQUAM NON PARATUS!"

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: Rug_Trucker] #1216858 04/16/12 06:17 PM 04/16/12 06:17 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,713 A Andrewh master
Andrewh master A Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,713	Quote: 360 in my van has an aluminum water pump, and intake. No problems in over 150K. how do you know? how often do you change the coolant? neither of those is thin material, like a radiator, but still have you looked inside either one?

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: Andrewh] #1216859 04/16/12 06:33 PM 04/16/12 06:33 PM
Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 637 SoMd, USA 1 135sohc mopar
135sohc mopar 1 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 637 SoMd, USA	Just about everything today and for the past 20 yrs now has aluminum/plastic radiators. They usually rot from the outside in due to salt/atmospheric conditions. Cut open lots when scrapping them and they might be clogged but not eaten away. Chrysler started using aluminum extensively w/2.2 and we dont have corrosion issues (block is cast iron, everything else is aluminum)unless the coolant is totally rancid.

Re: Question on electrolysis [Re: Andrewh] #1216860 04/16/12 06:43 PM 04/16/12 06:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,610 Not2farfromNashville, TN R Rug_Trucker I Live Here
Rug_Trucker I Live Here R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,610 Not2farfromNashville, TN	Quote: Quote: 360 in my van has an aluminum water pump, and intake. No problems in over 150K. how do you know? how often do you change the coolant? neither of those is thin material, like a radiator, but still have you looked inside either one? Swapped the heads at 125K. Intake was fine. I do know when installing my water pumps I use Neversieze on the bolts. "The only thing to do for triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" "NUNQUAM NON PARATUS!"

Moderated by Al_Alguire, Hotwheelsjr, moparts, not_a_charger, RangerDan440, tboomer

Hop To

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1