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Re: Pros and Cons of Undercoating [Re: DPelletier] #1216137 04/16/12 09:08 PM 04/16/12 09:08 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA Silver70 I Live Here
Silver70 I Live Here Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA	For something I'd drive daily in rain, parts of winter when there's no snow, then I'd undercoat it. My 68 was done and the floors are still perfect other than the trunk floor I replace, so it's getting redone. On my challenger, I used sem rock-it truck bed liner. Looks similar to undercoat, but it's very durable and washes clean very easily. It's also available in tintable. However on something really nice, I'd do paint or epoxy for a factory look. 68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert 340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram

Re: Pros and Cons of Undercoating [Re: Morty426] #1216138 04/16/12 09:41 PM 04/16/12 09:41 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808 AZ_A12_BEE I Live Here
AZ_A12_BEE I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808	Quote: I didn't think undercoating appeared on the fender tag It does on STL cars, A05 protection group, this car is one after my 500 vert, both have A05 7167862-69_WP27_E63_D32_R6_202279.jpg (116 downloads) Last edited by AZ_A12_BEE; 04/16/12 09:43 PM. 69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.

Re: Pros and Cons of Undercoating [Re: HPMike] #1216139 04/16/12 09:43 PM 04/16/12 09:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: The bottom of the tank on my Hemi Challenger is coated, and I am 100% sure that it is original. Also had a survivor '70 GTX in here that had the bottom of the tank coated as well. MB I don't doubt that a bit Mike, I was speaking of Los Angeles cars, and even those vary in the amount of coverage they get, most I've seen from that plant have had very little on the fuel tank, mostly just a dusting of splatter over spray or a small build up near the forward/axle side.

Re: Pros and Cons of Undercoating [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1216140 04/16/12 09:44 PM 04/16/12 09:44 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808 AZ_A12_BEE I Live Here
AZ_A12_BEE I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808	Quote: Quote: The bottom of the tank on my Hemi Challenger is coated, and I am 100% sure that it is original. Also had a survivor '70 GTX in here that had the bottom of the tank coated as well. MB I don't doubt that a bit Mike, I was speaking of Los Angeles cars, and even those vary in the amount of coverage they get, most I've seen from that plant have had very little on the fuel tank, mostly just a dusting on splatter or a small build up near the forward/axle side. thats usually what I have seen, just some overspray on the gas tank 69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.

Re: Pros and Cons of Undercoating [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1216141 04/16/12 11:03 PM 04/16/12 11:03 PM
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340cpe mopar 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 647 Pa.	Now that I am really confused, which I guess is not difficult with whats right or wrong on some of these cars, I have a 74 Charger SE which I am the 2nd owner of. The car has a hood pad, coating in the front fenders, rear wheel houses, and of course the bottom of the floor pan. I have the original build sheet which does not have the code for undercoating. I also own a 71 Charger which has the same except there is no hood pad, this car is a SuperBee. I have the build sheet for it also with know undercoating code. Both cars were built at Lynch Road. Any takers?

Re: Pros and Cons of Undercoating [Re: 340cpe] #1216142 04/16/12 11:14 PM 04/16/12 11:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	If the floor pans are undercoated and its not on the Broadcast Sheet it wasnt factory applied.

Re: Pros and Cons of Undercoating [Re: DPelletier] #1216143 04/16/12 11:53 PM 04/16/12 11:53 PM
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71rm23 master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None	Quote: Some cars got full undercoating from the factory, some were done at the dealership and some weren't undercoated at all (except the wheelwells as mentioned previously). Obviously the undercoating has helped preserve the car and so the answer as to what to do depends on you: what are your plans for the car? In my case, my car will never see snow, never see a dirt road and rain will be avoided; it won't be going out of it's heated shop in the winter and will likely only get driven a few times a month seasonally....therefore there is no need whatsoever for full undercoating and I like being able to see everything under the car clearly. I also think that should I ever sell the car, buyers will also want to clearly see the condition of the underside of the unibody. Now, if you are planning on using your car as a year round daily driver, I'd put the undercoating back on. Dave I'm leaning towards not putting it back on. I wont be driving it in the elements of weather. Thanks for helping me make the final decision, Dave

Re: Pros and Cons of Undercoating [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1216144 04/16/12 11:54 PM 04/16/12 11:54 PM
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340cpe mopar 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 647 Pa.	I guess the dealers made a bundle then. I can't say that I have seen a car A,B,C or E body up here in the wintery northeast that has not had the bottom of the floor pan coated. Scott thanks for your help. I can't say that I am totally unconfused now but this helps!! ha ha

Re: Pros and Cons of Undercoating [Re: HPMike] #1216145 06/16/12 11:16 AM 06/16/12 11:16 AM
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captaindodge enthusiast C Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 279 pgh pa	And NOTHING looks worse than seeing body color in the wheelwells..... I think body color on the pinch weld of rocker panels and behind the grill look worse!

Re: Pros and Cons of Undercoating [Re: captaindodge] #1216146 06/17/12 07:20 PM 06/17/12 07:20 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,489 west kentucky G gomangoRTSE pro stock
gomangoRTSE pro stock G Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,489 west kentucky	Quote: And NOTHING looks worse than seeing body color in the wheelwells..... I think body color on the pinch weld of rocker panels and behind the grill look worse! On non undercoate ordered cars the front wheel wells were often NOT undercoated (more correctly referred to as sound deadener) when from the Los Angeles assembly plant. In addition the rears were often dine very sparingly with only small amounts getting on the surrounding areas like the has tank etc ____________________________________________________________ As far as blacking out behind the grill, yea sure I agree that should be done. But I completely disagree that "nothing looks worse than seeing body color in the wheelwells." Each person has their own preference. I will not undercoat my fendwerwells. I like the orange being seen. My car is an LA car (NOE), but I just like the over restored look. I more than like wont use the black or gray primer on the floorboards. Im gonna paint it all. Look at it this way. If down the road the paint shows wear and or tear or chips "then" you can always tape off area and put your undercoating on it. Its the age old arguement of correctness, or over restoration. If your not in the concurs class at nationals, then do what pleases you. Last edited by gomangoRTSE; 06/17/12 07:35 PM.

Re: Pros and Cons of Undercoating [Re: gomangoRTSE] #1216147 06/18/12 09:36 AM 06/18/12 09:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	While it is true that most if not all LA plant cars did not recieve sound deadener in the forward wheel wells, every original car I've seen DID have blackout paint in the front wheel well areas to cover the body color, some had more than others but there was an effort to hide the body color made none the less.

Re: Pros and Cons of Undercoating [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1216148 06/18/12 01:47 PM 06/18/12 01:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,085 NotRussia 2 2fast4yourBrain Whack top Dodger
2fast4yourBrain Whack top Dodger 2 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,085 NotRussia	Quote: While it is true that most if not all LA plant cars did not recieve sound deadener in the forward wheel wells, every original car I've seen DID have blackout paint in the front wheel well areas to cover the body color, some had more than others but there was an effort to hide the body color made none the less. I would do this. I would maybe use thinned out bedliner coating so that it wouldn't chip off. 70 318 Chally vert FC7/XW (sold) 06 300c SRT8 04 2500 QCLB 4x4 HO 1971 BMW 2800CS 1955 Nomad 1970 280SL

Re: Pros and Cons of Undercoating [Re: 2fast4yourBrain] #1216149 06/18/12 02:22 PM 06/18/12 02:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Here we go wirh the bedliner topic again

Re: Pros and Cons of Undercoating [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1216150 06/18/12 02:32 PM 06/18/12 02:32 PM
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DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	Quote: Here we go wirh the bedliner topic again Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: Pros and Cons of Undercoating [Re: DPelletier] #1216151 06/18/12 08:32 PM 06/18/12 08:32 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA Silver70 I Live Here
Silver70 I Live Here Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA	There's a member here who I believe uses speedliner frpm what I remember. It looks like factory undercoating and it's tintable. I've seen inside quarters he's done before installing them and it looks good to me.

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